Good heavens, no. By all means, continue to yell and scream that every shooting of some assaultive black criminal is due to horrible racist cops. White voters love that.
Regards,
Shodan
I think that’s a great point. It’s just not really a partisan point until big city Democrats find a way to actually ameliorate the problem, and then Republicans oppose it for some reason.
One thing that would be useful to discuss in this thread though is how to get more white voters to support Democrats again. In 1992, Clinton lost white voters to Bush by only 2 points. In 1996, he lost white voters to Dole by only three. Obviously, if Democrats simply split the white vote with Republicans evenly, they would win pretty easily. So it seems worth trying. Especially given that white people actually vote in all the elections. What 2010 and 2014 taught Democrats is that they can’t just give up the white vote, if for no other reason than that they can’t win anything other than the White House without it.
So is it about image? Of course white guys would be willing to vote for a guy nicknamed “Bubba”. Is it that simple, or were there policy reasons that caused Clinton to fare better among white voters than Democrats before and after him?
He didn’t. Carter got 48% of whites in 1976 and Al Gore got 42% in 2000, compared to Clinton’s 39% in 1992 and 44% in 1996. Even Kerry managed 41% of whites in 2004. The differences in these numbers are insignificant, considering they can only come from polls. The exception might be Carter’s 48% in '76. I suspect that was the last gasp of the “Solid South” who would vote for a yellow dog before a Republican. Carter only got 36% in 1980, after Southern whites realized he was actually much worse than a yellow dog.
The Democrats have thrown all in with being a party of the fringes, and they’re desperately trying to hold together some very disparate groups long enough for demographics to shrink the white vote. Being anti-white is their core strategy. It is the only thing all the various Democratic constituencies have in common: they either aren’t white or wish they weren’t white.
Clinton did do well with white voters compared to Bush or Dole. A lot of white voters went to Perot in those elections, so it kinda skews the numbers, of course, but I don’t think in the absence of Perot that white voters overwhelmingly go Republican. Especially not in 1992, when Perot’s exit from the race boosted Clinton like 20 points in the polls.
I’ll try to stick to the ones that are due to mistakes and excessive force, some of which may be caused by racist attitudes and practices.
This is pretty ludicrous stuff. Obama won really big in '08 with very high turnout, and he won pretty big in '12 with high (but not as high as 08) turnout. The Republicans did well in '10 and '14 with low turnout. The Democrats aren’t desperately trying to hold the fringes together – they’re ‘desperately’ trying to get people out to vote. That’s very, very different. When turnout is high, Democrats do very well. When turnout is low, they don’t. That gives a pretty good indication, on top of the shrinking white and increasing non-white populations, that the Democrats aren’t the “party of the fringes”.
This is also the first time I’ve heard that white Democrats wish they weren’t white… that’s a new one. Is that from Rush? Maybe Michael Savage?
Aw dang, he usually just Hannitys me, he’s breaking out Rush and Savage to describe your posts.
This may not sound related, but I think it might be. I was thinking of starting a thread on it but thought it might be better here:
I remember in 2006 the Democratic Party made a point of nominating people who recently got out of the military, like Paul Hackett, but it seems that since then almost all the candidates who were in Iraq or Afghanistan are Republicans. Can anyone name some Congressmen or Senators who served in these recent wars?
I bet that more war heroes would help Democrats. Or maybe I’m just missing the fact that they were elected recently. I know of Tom Cotton and some Congressmen who were in Iraq, but I don’t recall any Democrats who served in that conflict making it into Congress.
As much as I dislike Hannity, I don’t think he spends much time insulting and berating ordinary Democratic voters, unlike Rush and Savage.
Tammy Duckworth comes to mind.
Ah yes, Duckworth, how could I forget? I’ve always been a big fan of hers.
That’s an exaggeration, but I stand by my claim that being anti-white is a core Democratic strategy. For example, blacks and Latinos have no cultural ties but often find themselves in close proximity and competition, so naturally some tension arises. How do you bring them together? Convince them they have a common enemy.
You used to hear about Black Power and Black Pride, but Democrats can’t indulge in that any more because it’ll alienate Latinos. But if they constantly use whites as a sort of universal, guilty-til-proven-innocent bogeyman, that’s something both blacks and Latinos can get behind.
Sure – Republicans. 
And considering the things that many Republicans in office say about black people and latin people, it’s not a terribly difficult case to make.
Quoting your earlier post once again…
+31 House seats and +5 Senate seats for the Democrats = **“Huge” **Democratic gain, according to iiandyiiii.
+64 House seats and +6 Senate seats for the Republicans = “Decent” Republican gain, according to iiandyiiii.
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A “huge” gain, because they won both the House and Senate.
A “decent” gain, because they only won the House.
You could characterize them differently if you were talking about raw numbers of representatives/Senators gained and lossed, but that’s not what I was referring to – I was referring to performance in terms of whether they gained/kept/lost control of the House and Senate.
The population demographic changes over time. The original residents move out. New residents move in. The police officers chose to stay and protect the community that they live in.
Big cities are not more democratic. They do have more Democrats. Big cities have more crime because they have more criminals.
Should Democrats learn how to talk to White voters about these facts of life? Or should someone start a new thread to continue the topic of the OP?
I didn’t say they are more democratic, I said they’re more Democratic – they have more Democrats.
Practically all cities worthy of the name are run by Democrats. Even when the occasional Republican is elected mayor of a big city (John Lindsay, Michael Bloomberg…), it’s usually a liberal Republican.
That’s a new one on me. 
*DEMOCRATIC
adjective
› politics & government using the principles of democracy in elections and government:
That country has never had a democratic election (= an election in which all adults can vote).
Australia is a democratic country.
› A person or a group that is democratic believes in, encourages, or supports freedom and equality between people and groups:
a democratic society*
Maybe those folks running the Cambridge Dictionary should include the iiandyiiii addendum -
› However, when capitalized, Democratic also means there are more Democrats in residence than you can shake a stick at. 
No it isn’t.
Democratic Party
This bit is not funny or cute at all. It just prevents any useful discussion from proceeding.
Sure, I’ll pretend that doorhinge doesn’t know that “Democratic” is the adjective form of the political party. From Merriam-Webster:
dem·o·crat·ic adjective \ˌde-mə-ˈkra-tik\ : based on a form of government in which the people choose leaders by voting : of or relating to democracy
Democratic : of or relating to one of the two major political parties in the U.S.
: relating to the idea that all people should be treated equally
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1: of, relating to, or favoring democracy
2 (often capitalized): of or relating to one of the two major political parties in the United States evolving in the early 19th century from the anti-federalists and the Democratic-Republican party and associated in modern times with policies of broad social reform and internationalism
3: relating to, appealing to, or available to the broad masses of the people <democratic art>
4: favoring social equality : not snobbish
— dem·o·crat·i·cal·ly -ti-k(ə-)lē\ adverb
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Examples of DEMOCRATIC
Democratic elections were held there today for the first time.
the country’s new democratic constitution
Debates are an important part of the democratic process.
The Democratic candidate for governor won the debate.
Most of these policies appeal to Democratic voters.
an interview with a leader of the Democratic Party
The organization works to promote democratic reforms around the world.
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Yes, it is.