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I don’t know why I’m bothering.
You really shouldn’t bother then, you might break a nail.
I think he is quite knowledgable. Maybe you should blow your nose, before it drips on your key board.
Uh-huh. If this is the level of knowledge he gives you, he is certainly suspect.
Self-styled “military experts” are a dime a dozen.
The fact that he calls himself ‘war(anything)’ says wanabee.
Take it to the pit.
Based on what? And, just as important, why should we agree with you about his knowledgeability?
If all you say is that some guy once told you something, and he seemed knowledgeable, so you are going to treat his assertion as fact, then people attempting to debate with you are going to ask for better sources of information on your part. Without a cite, no one has any idea if this guy knows what he’s talking about, if he ever said what you say he did, or if he even exists at all.
You do not know all that he has said. Maybe he is a colonel. I have fought with him many times, so maybe you will delight in that fact. Since war seems to be what you know, maybe that is why you attack me, yet you have not bothered to debate any part of the subject.
I seek new thought, wheather it comes from the men and women of the service, or just good people with common sense and some intelligence. I do not go looking for a fight, but I am very good at it, both physically, if I am pushed into a corner and mentally, if I am pressed.
If I wanted, I could go after people like jurf and others here and pick apart what they say and why, but I don’t look for fights. I just try to bring a different kind of thinking. I don’t want to be right all the time, because I like to learn, but sometimes, I will use the things I know to stop others from messing with me personally and I don’t even want to do that.
I can truly read people on any board, because they tell everyone that is truly listening, who they are, by their words and attitudes, on the subjects they speak about. I would rather learn and teach, as I have been taught and bother no one, but for better than 8 years on line, I have learned that just a few people want to dominate any board and they will do it in the worst ways, just as our government does. I say that, because the media has taught me, that our leaders live in the red light district and they would sell their souls to the highest bidders, just to get elected.
I have and don’t want a quarell with you or anyone, but if you force me, I can do all I have said, but I don’t want to.
With respect,
Jim
You’re right. We don’t. Because you won’t freakin’ cite it!
Well, seeing as how this is an online forum, your ability to engage in physical confrontations is irrelevant. As far as your ability to fight mentally, I suspect that you aren’t as well armed for such an encounter as you think you are. Battles of ideas are won based on sound logic and solid facts, and you seem not to be very well acquainted with either.
That’s not a fight, that’s a debate! That’s what we’re here for! By all means pick apart what anyone and everyone here says.
No worries there.
I highly doubt it. At least, I doubt you can to the degree that you’re implying.
Uh oh. Everyone, tin-foil hats at the ready!
Weren’t you just saying how the media is controlled by the government? And now you’re saying that the media has enough freedom to out the leaders within said government as corrupt? So . . . . which is it?
But can you debate the issue at hand? That’s the million dollar question. So far, the answer seems to be a resounding “no”.
Well, come on then. This is Great Debates, you’re meant to have arguments in here.
Consider this a polite challenge, an imaginary slap across the face with a glove and a yell of “I demand satisfaction!”. My challenge to you - please hit us with the best arguments you have. Don’t hold back. We can take it.
You’re trying to prove that depleted uranium causes little sharp-edged particles which slice and dice soldiers’ innards. I challenge you to prove this, using the best arguments and resources at your disposal.
You are incapable of debate, but you sure know how to try to berate people. LOL You are a poor human being.
Conversely, maybe ‘he’ is a sugar plum fairy.
What is to debate? You’ve given us nothing but bad science and even worse anecdotes about soldier’s health. Not even half-way decent anecdotes, but FOAFOAF anecdotes.
Yawn Evidence suggests otherwise.
No. You cannot. Or you would have already.
Gee, where have I heard that before? :rolleyes:
I’m guessing by now this little experience has earned the OP the “Subjected to Well-Desereved Dogpile” merit badge.
ToucheI bet santa isn’t coming to your house this year.
Boy Scout11, just curious, do you understand what we mean when we say “cite” ?
If you do not, please do not hesitate to ask.
To play on BMalion’s theme:
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Your ‘word’ is not good enough. That includes 'I heard it from x stories. And it’s not because you are new; When a ‘cite’ is asked for, it’s put up or shutup time for one and all.
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A cite is a link to material that backs your assertion. Simple as that.
Did you see anything new, learned from this thread? I’m mostly computer illiterate and IF I chose, I could research all I speak about, but much that I offer in medicine and other subjects, has not been addressed, that I know of. Since any decent board has people that are good at researching, I would think their value to any board is a good thing, if used in the best manner, for everyones sake. Take Andrew, he took no side, yet he offered things for and against myself and others with equality. These are just a few things that can make a board great, but it seems so many on each board want to dominate, never apologize even if they are wrong and run away when they can’t answer the toughest of questions, or they simply resort to smear tactics.
For instance, in metallurgy, we have gone from the blacksmith, that learned to go from just heating the metal and pounding it into shape, to the next step, that was heating, folding and pounding the metal down many times, to concentrate the molecules as close as possible, which made the metal much harder.
Thinking along these lines and todays technology, I considered how superheating the metal in huge vats and poured could possibly be done better. In the senario I offered, I considered the further compaction of the heaviest elements in this superheated state and that was, when the molten metal reached its peak, a sort of hammer could pound on the side of these vats, depending and I believe that would make the heaviest molecules decend to the bottom of the vats, therefore, like folding and pounding the metal many times, the pounding of the sides of these vats would produce the same, depending on the need for harder metal. While I have not figured out how to retrieve the heaviest of metals from the bottom, it was a different form of thinking I had never heard before.
In medicine and research, I know that they spin the blood and most other things, which seperates the components, buit I also offered the possibility of pinging down the blood, with say sound waves, which might reveal even more. Adding on to that, I mentioned that using different light spectrums may show differences in the blood that spinning and microscopic inspection may not show. Maybe, much of what I offer is already known, but as in dyslexia, none of the new thinking I brought to that arena had been proposed anywhere, as no one has brought to the boards any thinking by dyslexic associations about the things I spoke of. The good doctor even ran away when the really hard questions were asked of him, after he attacked me.
I have answered you, simply because you offered no personal attack as so many have.
I would add to the above by saying, that from our antiquated crafts, we have evolved and employed more and more people in each of these fields and the more our government gives away these crafts, or teaches them to other nations, the less new jobs for us and the more the chance that those other countries will come up with new technology, based on the old, before we do.
BoyScout. Your persistency alone deserves a merit badge. I also sincerely admire your ability to stay calm when met with deserved criticism. May I suggest, however, that the type of debate you are looking for is not going to materialise on these boards. If you are proposing ideas in metallurgy and medicine that have no substantiation behind them, then there is not much to debate is there? We might all end up speculating around your ideas but that will be as far as it goes. Perhaps you might consider taking somes classes in those fields that interest you. If you progress far enough, you may get the opportunity to test some of your ideas out. In the meantime, the majority of users here prefer debating issues where corroboration of views and ideas can be offered in the form of cites.
Believe it or not, on other boards that I have spoken on, the things I have spoken about have been seen in the public sector after I spoke on them, such as part of dyslexia that I spoke on. I spoke on heat related illnesses and football players, because for 21 years of my carreer, I was exposed to intense heat, while working very, very, hard.
In that piece, I told of how I used to cool down my body in a specific manner. After that, the football team I was speaking to in my home town, came up with a spin-off, about heat. I told of working with just the least amount of clothing in these situations and when the heat built up to a certain point, I would go out in the yard and cool down with the water hose and towell dry and go right back to work. After talking about such simplicity for football players, both professional as well as the kids leagues, the professional league in my home town came out with an idea based on the premise of cooling the body in a different way, other than water, the least amount of clothing and toweling off, by installing a valve on the players shoulder pads, which they could then actually air condition the players bodies, beneath the pads, which would quickly cool them down and refreash them much quicker, which helps to keep heat related sicknesses at bay.
Check it out. The Jacksonville Jaguars should be the first team to have air conditioned their players, if I am right. If another team came up with it first, then I am wrong and it was not what I spoke of.
Oh, so that’s how Fiestaware Uranium enters the bloodstream and causes mutated babies and bloody stools. Thanks for clearing that up!
Well, it certainly is nifty that your radical, ground-breaking ideas on heat management (wearing light clothing, pouring cold water on yourself - what a concept!) have done so much for football, and you must be very proud.
Now, could we see a trifle of proof for your assertions that Gulf War vets are getting sick from invisible particles of ceramic uranium coursing thru their veins and causing their sex partners to burst into flame?
Regards,
Shodan