Deported man dies

Jimmy Aldaoud, a diabetic with mental issues and a minor criminal past, was deported from the United States to Iran. He was born in Greece, and never been to Iran, didn’t speak Arabic.
“Wesam Yako, a U.S. Army veteran who was also deported, said he saw Aldaoud last week in Baghdad. “I saw him. He was sick. He was sitting at home all day for 10 days,” Yako said. “He don’t want to go nowhere.””

We deport terribly ill people to a country where they have never been. We deport US military veterans.
This is crazy.

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nitpick: if you go to Iran, the language you want is Farsi.

But yeah, Trump’s a bad thing.

Did you actually read the entirety of the article you linked to?

Dunno about carnivorousplant but I did and as far as I’m concerned ICE and the US killed a man who needed help.

He was deported to Iraq not Iran (hence he was in Baghdad, which is in Iraq)

He was sent to Iraq so Arabic is the right language.

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This is not unusual. I read of a case in Canada where some fellow who was about twenty-something was going to be deported to a place he was too young to remember. He came with his parents… but was taken away at one point and put in foster care. normally, once he’d been here 5 years he could apply for citizenship as a minor, but apparently the foster system - run by the government - neglected to do this. So when he was 18 and got into drugs, he was a criminal and could not apply. Last I heard of this case, his lawyer was fighting deportation arguing the government wa negligent as his guardian in not applying for citizenship.

Canada has also been criticized for hiring non-standard transport options (people smugglers not using documentation) to deport Somalians - fly them to Kenya and someone takes them from there, dumps them in Somalia somewhere whether they can speak the language or not.

Should you be surprised the USA does similar things? And presidential criticisms aside, this has been happening for ages. Biden missed the opportunity to say at the last debate than many of those deported when he was VP were either criminals or people caught sneaking in after being removed once.

Oh ages, you say? Well, that changes things. :rolleyes:

Home invasion qualifies as “minor” criminal activity in your opinion?

Here’s what I don’t get. He was mentioned as being caught in a sweep of Iraqis and he was deported to Iraq. Yet he was born in Greece and never set foot in Iraq before ICE put him there. If anything, wouldn’t he be Greek and should have been deported to Greece if anywhere? Did he not ever have Greek citizenship due to being born there?

I wouldn’t call Aldaoud a minor criminal. Anyone that kicks in my door (home invasion) and threatens my family is a threat to everyone I love and care about. Aldaoud also has assault charges. He’s a violent criminal.

The US deports criminals that aren’t Citizens.

Fo example, Real Housewives star Teresa Giudice’s husband Joe had mail, wire and bankruptcy fraud convictions. No violent crimes.
The US is trying to deport him to Italy.

Guests inn your home or your country have an expectation to live lawful lives. A good guest doesn’t commit crimes against their host.

These damn 504 errors make editing posts within 5 minutes impossible. :frowning:

Ignore the double link from People mag.

Yes, what did I miss?

I didn’t see that, I read about his father calling the police on him, and according to his sister, lying about what had happened.

The four paragraphs immediately following the above:

I saw this in the paper this morning. The cruelty involved is just unbelievable.

Yes, the man was a criminal. He was also had significant mental issues. What I took away from the Times article is that this was a man failed by the system. Exiling a physically and mentally ill man to a country where he didn’t speak the language or know anybody was an execution almost as sure as the chair, only more slower and with less possibility of appeals.

He has no place to go because he doesn’t belong here or anywhere else. US taxpayers must pay his living expenses because he can’t take care of himself, and no one else will. (Why does the bill not get sent to the UN?) Why was he here in the first place? How did he survive this long?
He’s mentally and physically ill.
How do we deal with this kind of case? Institutions?

This article has more background. He came to the U.S. as a refugee when he was a year old. Due to the timing of when his dad kicked him out of the house, the development of his mental illness, and his age, he never really had the opportunity to naturalize; kids can’t naturalize independently before they turn 18, and it sounds like by then, his mental illness was in full bloom. By the time he was old enough to do anything himself, his criminal record probably disqualified him from citizenship.

I wonder how many of the convictions were avoidable if he hadn’t pled guilty? If he’d had decent advice from a criminal attorney who understood the immigration consequences, not to mention decent mental health care, all of this might have gone very differently.

Of course, it’s pretty disgusting that ICE couldn’t be bothered to let him call his family before he was deported so they had a chance to set up some kind of support network for him in Iraq. Or get him some ^$@(@% identification documents. He may have had problems, but he was still a human being. Sadly, this scenario is not at all unusual.

Yeah, a few years ago I remember reading about the case of a man who was deported to South Korea (where he hadn’t been since his infancy) because his parents had neglected to file proper paperwork after he was adopted. Compounding the perceived unfairness was the fact that the law had already been changed to stop this from happening…but it wasn’t retroactive enough to affect his case.

Thankfully, it seems not to have killed him.