Derren Brown's Messiah

Who saw this on Channel 4 (UK) at the weekend? I thought it was very interesting, even though he did shy away from truly stating what he was really thinking. A bit too much of “I just want you to think this out for yourself” for my tastes.

Anyway, for those who didn’t see it…

Derren Brown is an illusionist/hypnotist/mentalist. He’s quite well known in the UK but apparently unheard of in the US. He is scarily good and just a little bit creepy, though I’m sure that’s all part of his act. His ‘Messiah’ programme used his unknown status in the US to good effect. What he set out to show was not an attack on US society or beliefs, it’s just that there he could act out his experiments without being recognised.

What he did was represent himself to five different sets of “experts” as something he wasn’t. He always made it clear that the moment any of them asked if he was pulling a trick on them he would admit to it. But they never did…

“The purpose of that rather bold title is that I am clearly not the Messiah but could somebody set themselves up as one if they wanted to?”

Experiment 1: New Ager psychics at a psychic school. Derren claims he has developed a gift of remote viewing and proceeds to demonstrate. He correctly identifies four drawings in another room with impressive accuracy. In fact it’s the best demonstration of remote viewing I’ve ever seen and the New Agers are equally impressed. They are totally convinced and proclaim it a text-book example of psychic ability.

Experiment 2: Derren tells an evangelical preacher that he has been struck by lightening and can now convert non-believers with a touch. A group of suitable non-believers are recruited and he does his stuff. One woman explains she is an atheist. One touch to the side of the head later and she’s crying and wittering about ‘inner-hugs’. Another guy is doing the whole falling over backwards thing, without either being touched or even seeing Derren behind him. Then everyone is falling over. It gets kind of frightening and they all leave proclaiming they are believers. None of them are stooges. The preacher is impressed, but a bit wary. I suspect he has worries about the apparent lack of free-will involved.

Experiment 3: Derren punts his ‘Crystal Dream Catcher’ machine to a successful New Age magazine editor. (This is pure Randi territory.) The ‘Dream Catcher’ he has asked the editor to try out is a metal box with a on/off switch, a light, a couple of wires and a pillow case. But this doesn’t stop him telling the editor what dreams she’s been having over the last week. She is mightily impressed and offers to do a review of it in her magazine.

Experiment 4: Derren meets a woman who writes books about alien abductions. He tells her he was abducted and can now diagnose people’s illnesses by touch. Then he tells her she has trouble sleeping and had trouble with her throat. She is gob-smacked. He is spot on. She wants him to come along to her next meeting of alien abductees and appear on her radio show.

Experiment 5: Derren contacts the dead. He demonstrates to a Medium his ability as he contacts the dead for a group of skeptical New Yorkers. I thought this was his weakest performance, but he still has quite a few of them convinced and the Medium. He actually says he found this one the hardest, as he is in effect lying to people who get quite emotional.

The programme does say that all the innocent victims involved were later let in on the true nature of what was happening.

So what was his point? Well, I thought it was rather lost in the ‘think for yourself’ message. But what he said was if you are going to buy into any of these beliefs you need to be aware how you can get conned. He stopped short of saying that they were all frauds, though he did get closest to saying this with the Mediums.

Anyone got further thoughts? Anyone an idea of how he did the tricks? He states that he is using cold reading for contacting the dead and the instant-conversion is clearly hypnotism. I think the alien diagnosis is probably a case of him getting hold of background info, but I’m at a total lose how he manages the remote viewing or the dream recorder.

More about the programme on Derren Brown’s Web Site

Hilariously, she’s still got the advertisment for the dream machine on her website:

http://www.sincitywebhosting.com/esotericworldnews/dreammachine.htm

I highly recommend Derren Brown’s specials to anyone who’s never seen one (or heard of him, before now). He’s a bit smarmy, though never to a David Blaine degree, but the results speak for themselves. The program he did on a haunting was great, and I bring it up whenever someone goes into the whole “I never used to believe in ghosts, but I swear [typical skpetic-turned-believer story that mixes fact, fiction, and realistic dreams].” I only wish he explained how he tricked people a little bit more- the shows always seem to end so abruptly.

Based on Lobsang’s comments in the thread that led to this one, was there a direct mockery of “American” beliefs? Or just paranormal beliefs in general?

I caught Derren Brown’s Russian Roulette special while I was over there last summer, and even started a thread about it. I really enjoyed the program. He’s cocky in an apologetic “I know I’m cocky” kind of way… If that makes any sense. Anyway, highly entertaining, I wish I could get my hands on some shows over here.

Oh, that’s just priceless. Perhaps someone should let her know she’s been had?

I think Lobsang was just being a tiny bit provokative. There was nothing in the programme that directly targeted ‘American’ beliefs, other than, well, where-else are you going to find someone making a living writing books on alien abduction? Derren makes it clear at the start that he’s doing this in America because he’s nobody there. If he’d tried it in the UK he would have been rumbled straight off.

I don’t find him smarmy at all. This is in part why his cold-reading session was the most unconvincing. He doesn’t have the right touchy-feely-(in)sincerity to be a medium or be smarmy. He can certainly be a bit creepy though, but this is part of the act. You really do get the uncomfortable feeling that he’s reading your mind.

I’ve been on one of his TV programs and he’s certainly a talented illusionist. :cool:
He did three effects. One (which I knew he had to be using) involved regular memorising, the second was an envelope switch (again I expected this, but I still got distracted at the critical moment!) and as for the third - I still don’t know how he did it.

At the end of 4 hours filming, his car came. He could have just waved and gone, but instead came over to chat and sign autographs. Excellent. :smiley:

With a little magic of my own (and a very helpful person, thank you!) I was able to watch this tonight. Absolutely loved it. I don’t care what anyone says, the man is talented. It was eye opening, IMHO, to see him, knowing that he was absolutely a “fake”, and yet put on such a convincing show.
I was highly relieved that the people he converted were apparently de-converted. I think that was the most unsettling segment - apparently staunch atheists being converted to Believers practically out of thin air. I think what I found most unsettling was the fact that I really couldn’t come up with a theory as to how he did it.

Must have more Derren…