Dick Durbin says sorry - will those who supported his comments say sorry too?

Problem is, a talk in person conveys body language. You want to show humor? Put in a lotta’ smilies.

Sense of humor more than a phrase, sure, I got that. conversation w/an employee that can be misconstrued to be sexual advances for more than a phrase - ain’t no way in fucking hell

break out the brillo pads!! (where’s that pucking smiley?)

The NY Post headline writes itself.

Did O’Reilly Dick Durbin?

If only vibrators could talk…

I people would stop doing that. this is the 6th time this thread alone that I’ve had to scrub out my brain. Bleach ain’t cheap ya know.

There really are such things as talking vibrators. Google tells me that I can get one with my favorite celebrity voice. I wonder if Bill O’Reilly had a Bill O’Reilly vibrator?

again.

::scrub scrub scrub fuckin’ evil images ::scrub scrub scrub::

(and please, if you would, I really had typed “I wish people” instead of “I people” really. I did. I have witnesses and everything.)

Getting back to the original post, since I commented in the original thread I think I’d better respond to newcrasher.

Here’s what I said at post #10 in the original thread:

To use the time-honoured newspaper response: “I stand by my story.” Nothing in the Senator’s recantation changes my opinion that if the FBI report is accurate, Gitmo is properly characterised as a concentration camp.

Today’s news that the US has been stalling the UN on Guantanamo inspection reinforces that opinion:

Yeah, “if”! But everybody knows the FBI is chock full of your radical-liberal types, Amnesty International woosies, lefties everywhere!

That’s why I’m hedging my bets, luci. :wink:

Okay, if it doesn’t get its own thread, I have to do it here:

Karl Rove is a fat little chickenhawk cunt.

He meant to say “loofah”, in the context of what he’d like to do to that woman in the shower, but oddly couldn’t come up with the word.

Transcripts and audio clips alone don’t do it for ya, hoss?

Clue time: The suit charged sexual harassment. He paid off without a public word. It wasn’t “joking around”. To repeat, you’re normally better than this.

Finn, the “trap” is letting yourself get drawn off the topic. You’re normally better than that, too.

In case you missed it, I do. He didn’t *say * it. He acted it out. Happy now? Dio, if you have any other plausible possibilities to offer, please do so, or the orifice he used can be considered stipulated. Happy now?

Here’s a nice, big :o for both of you, and a pat on the head to young Debaser.

Thanks for the compliment, but I can’t agree with your sentiments. Had you simply pointed out that O’Reilly was an abusive schmuck who sexually harassed his employee, I’d have agreed. The point was that the specific claim you made (eg that you could hear him saying he liked a vibe up his ass) was simply false. You may view this as being pulled away from the main issue, I see it as maintaining intellectual honesty.

If you don’t want people to get drawn off topic, hyperbole and untruth should be avoided.

Look, I’m sorry that your comment earlier triggered a rant more appropriately aimed at Debaser and his ilk. I am especially sorry that, because I did not name him in specific he apparently doesn’t think I was talking about him. But I thought my over the top reply loaded as it was with smiles made it obvious I was suitably chastened without a need for me to weep on the Senate floor. Get the fuck over it.

There you go again with those weird semi-compliments. “Authority figure?” “(S)hould I…take you seriously…?” Since when has anybody taken me seriously?

That doesn’t work on Yeticus Rex. :frowning:

Oh. I was wondering because a falafel would fall apart in the shower.

Does he need to have used an orifice? He could’ve been using it to relax his cheek muscles, like the ladies in the Sunday Supplements used to.

There were audio clips? Did someone link to them earlier? The “transcripts”, as was pointed out earlier, are from her, not some objective third party.

Clue time: Large corporations do this all the time regardless of guilt or innocence just to avoid bad publicity. And I don’t know how you define “public word” but he certainly discussed it on his show a few times. I heard it myself.

Look, I’m not saying the guy is innocent. But since there was no trial, we don’t know all the details.

And what do you have to say to Debaser, whose loyal, vociferous, and repeated assertion that the stories about O’Reilly are “baseless”? Is that little bit of dishonesty much less significant than what you think mine is? No, you let yourself be drawn away from that, didn’t you?

John, now you’re just being petulant.

Maybe I’ve been wrong about both of you.

It’s odd that while we managed to avoid having this hijacked into a thread about Liberal (things looked to be going in that direction on page 1), we’ve nevertheless diverted course into a conversation about Bill O’Reilly.

Hey, newcrasher, I supported Senator Durbin in making the comments he did. I found them to be entirely on point. And now that he has said “Sorry,” I’m going to say “sorry,” as well.

I’m sorry that Senator Durbin caved in to the political pressure the way he did. He has the right and responsibility to pick his battles, I suppose, and he evidently decided that this was not a hill he was prepared to die on.* I like to think about myself that I would have decided differently. In any event, I hope that one day he finds the hill he is prepared to die on, and that it is not too late to do any good.

*If anyone thnks that my use of this metaphor is a disrespectful comparison to the sacrifices made by the brave men who have given their lives defending literal hills in America’s armed conflicts, I have my response already prepared for any demands for an apology: Bite me…

“Cut it out!”

Yes.
I think that we should hold the truth to much higher standards. I think that we should make sure that when relating the truth, we do not embelish or alter it in the least bit. I think that when the guy with the truth distorts it, it does great harm to the discourse and to the position he’s supporting.

I did indeed, I was focusing on the claims you made. It’s hard to focus on everybody in a debate, and sometimes its best to ‘police’ ‘our own side’.

You serve nobody by making false claims, especially yourself. It’s far too easy to dismiss an entire argument just because someone starts making shit up somewhere in it.