A great many things aren’t mentioned in the Bible, due to technology and historical era. Internet hacking, trolling, female genital mutilation, pornography, etc. I don’t think that means Christians can’t have a religiously rooted view on those issues.
Uh, that’s not what it says. It isn’t about a rape victim, it is about a woman who is suspected to be having an extramarital affair. And it’s not herbs, it’s dust from the floor.
At any rate, I won’t hijack the thread further.
remember the quote that someone is liberal until they get mugged?
Interesting. How were you different 15 years ago than you are now? What would have appealed to you then that doesn’t now?
I grew up in the 40s and absorbed the basic ideas of social democracy. I do not believe my parents ever voted for a Republican and neither did I. Of course, it would be inconceivable for me to do so at this juncture. The anti-science, white supremacist party that lies constantly. The one issue that I have moved on is labor unions. I used to be opposed to them for two reasons. My father spent some effort to avoid having to join one; and there were some famously corrupt ones. Eventually I came to realize that the only thing worse than having labor unions is not having them. The fact that they have mostly disappeared is surely the reason for the wage stagnation we see. With that one exception, my political views have not changed in 70 years, although the political spectrum has and leaves me further to the left.
I’m still to the right of center but have become more liberal on fiscal issues as I’ve gotten older. The Affordable Care Act is helping people and was the right thing to do.
Interesting how many people in this thread have gotten more liberal with age, contrary to the old adage mentioned early on.
In the late eighties I read someone (Gloria Steinem?) suggesting that the opposite phenomenon works with a lot of women: as they grow older, they become more radicalized and move much further to the left.
I wonder if that quote’s relevance is confined to upper-class white dudes and intersects with their experience of personal power. As young adolescents they knew they were groomed for power that they didn’t yet have, so they chafed under restrictions and wanted to upend the system. As they grew older and grew into the power that was their birthright, they became more comfortable with, and supportive of, the system.
Yeah, that old cliche never held true. It’s just something people say to feel better about themselves.
I used to be more conservative. The Reagan years and then the creeping insanity of the Republican party starting in the 90’s moved me leftward. I’m a septuagenarian. I estimate I used to vote GOP 25% of the time. Now I’m a yellow dog Democrat.
I’m still somewhat of a fiscal conservative. For example, I’d like to see the bloated defense budget cut about 50%.
Edit:
My local Democratic committee is made up mostly of retired people and lawyers. We’re a 'burb of NYC and most people who commute in are just not available to work for the committee. I didn’t for years until I retired. We “elderly” tend to be mostly Sanders and Warren supporters.
Are you now opposed to progressive taxation, then?
Have been mugged. More liberal 30 years later. Also less muggings overall. I live in a city. I walk around and see who’s living on the street.
Very similar to me, JT.
I was never a religious conservative but I was a Wall St/libertardian conservative throughout most of the 90s and like most Southerners, I was a “lock 'em up and throw away the key” conservative when it came to crime.
Over time, it just became obvious to me that conservatives were full of shit.
I’ll confess: after being a victim of crime in the 1990s (in my 20s), I went through a period when I dabbled with right wing kook politics. Regularly listened to Mike Reagan and G Gordon Liddy.
I grew out of it. Violent crime has origins that predate the crime (mugging) by years. If we want to reduce violent crime, treat people like humans. They’re more likely to behave humanely when they’re treated well by their fellow man.
Yeah, that liberal who’s been mugged trope is another one of those clichés that doesn’t hold up. People who live in cities tend to be more liberal because we live in closer proximity to one another and realize that it is in our own interests for everyone to try and get along with one another.
Biased sample. In post-rational America political alignment correlates with information and intellectual skill. Most Trumpist oldtimers couldn’t set up an account at SDMB by themselves if their lives depended on it.
I’m still right of center on many issues and either liberal or dontcareian on most social issues. That hasn’t changed. Instead of mostly voting republican I now really hate both parties. I guess that’s an improvement.
Well, except for the Amelekites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. Fuck those guys.
It strikes me that that adage was constructed by an old conservative who always lived in an environment of economic and social privilege. It really only rings [del]true[/del] plausible when applied exclusively to the privileged class.
At least there was that one good Samaritan. The rest? Yuck.