But are they good neighbors?
Obligatory humor break.
Not according to any source I am aware of - He was “of the house and lineage of David”. And both geneaologies, while they don’t agree, firmly establish His ancestry as Jewish.
And if you need further unimpeachable cites, here you go.
Regards,
Shodan
“It’s only a parable. Of course it didn’t really happen. A Samaritan tosser wouldn’t do that for his own grandmother!”
Yeah, I couldn’t find anything. I’m not sure what it was that my brain was trying to remember.
I’m surprised that nobody has mentioned the Mormons. They believe that descendants of Manasseh (founder of one of the “lost” ten tribes, and therefore an Israelite, but not a Jew) somehow wound up in North America around 600 BCE, and that later, the resurrected Jesus preached the Mormon version of the Gospel to them.
Maybe you were thinking of theories that he may have been an Essene or something related or similar.
Not an idea accepted by any scholar that I know of, but it’s made its way around the popular lit here and there.
I thought there were several passages in the NT where Jesus says specifically that his message is for the Jews alone. These would be parts of the Gospels that derive from the earliest texts while later Pauline additions would tend to portray the message of Jesus as universal. I should imagine that at the time of the Pauline redaction the earlier contradictory passages would be too familiar to be excised.
Equally plausible is the idea that these passages are later additions meant to give a narrative context to Paul’s conflicts with the Jerusalem leadership.
What about Pilate?
“Are you the king of the Jews?”
“It is you who say it”
That’s kinda preaching
No one knows. During Christ’s time, the diaspora was certainly in existence and there was a decent-sized Jewish community in most cities of the Roman Empire, but there’s no way to know an actual percentage.
Actually, while there are a couple of instances in which Jesus interacted with Gentiles and he or his correspondent noted that the other person was not Jewish, Jesus always wound up offering healing or forgiveness to the other person, anyway. There are also a couple of passages in which he talks about taking his message to the world.
Jesus and his contemporaries would, of course, have been familiar with Trito-Isaiah, (Isaiah 56 - 66), with its numerous passages portraying Jews as the people who were to take God’s message of righteousness to the rest of the world.
Additionally, Paul met Jesus after Jesus’s death, which sort of doesn’t count, as I read the OP. Anyone anywhere who claims a direct conversion experience is also a gentile who Jesus preached to, if you you accept Paul.
According to the NT, Jesus told the Gentile woman who wanted his help curing her child;" I came only for the lost Sheep of Israel"His purpose seemed to be to have people love one another; and at first the Apostles preached only to the Jewish people, I believe it was Paul who then included the Gospel to the Gentiles.
But Jesus seems to have changed his mind in the next verse; after she points out that “even dogs eat the crumbs from their masters’ table” he recognizes her faith.
Indeed he recognized this woman’s need but it didn’t include his purpose in coming into the world.
There is no concrete evidence that Jesus ever lived. No pictures, no Roman sculptures, no body no bones were ever found. The archeologists are still looking for him. So far they didn’t find anything that belonged to Jesus, not even a rotten sandal. But the bible has an answer for everything. Hey!.. He’s the son of God. he died for our sins He resurrected and he went up to meet his dad in nothingness. There’s a possibility that he did exist. If he did he was just a man, a philosopher that got the High Priest really pissed off. He was arrested because he was an heretic, a provocateur, a reformer in other words he was a troublemaker preaching the wrong thing. They got so upset that they got rid of him. In those days all the outlaws were crucified, hundreds of them along the road , not on a cross but on a T. Two pieces of wood tied together. I must say though that a gold ‘Cross’ looks much better than a gold ‘T’ around the neck. After the outlaws died from suffocation, they were thrown into the city dump, which had a perpetual fire. By the way I should mention that the fire in hell comes from that very same place. ‘You don’t behave you’re gonna end up in the dump’ thay used to say. The Egyptian have no records of a man named Jesus who was preaching and doing magic tricks. So we will never know if he did or not exist… that is. Okay my friends, I could go on but I think I’ll sign off on that note.
Ciao!
Potenski
Wow, are you a History professor?
This thread is not so long that you should have missed Post #15.
What you are doing is threadshitting in a way that has already been deemed inappropriate. If you want to argue that there was never a Jesus of Nazareth, feel free to do so–but open a separate thread to do it. It is not pertinent to this discussion.
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