Did Christie (or his staff) intentionally cause the Fort Lee traffic jam?

You can sure as hell delegate the blame, because that’s what staff is for.

“In conclusion, we have found that the repercussions of lane closings are much more severe than we had anticipated.”

Bill Baroni and David Wildstein better start packing bags for prison. These texts are extremely serious. They were told about EMS and police delays and still continued the bridge lane closures. I’m not sure what charges can be filed but this is just cold blooded.

New documents reveal ‘Bridgegate’ Port Authority appointees ignored danger warnings.

You have to feel sorry for any engineer who wants to conduct a legitimate traffic study in the next ten years. Imagine what the oversight’s going to look like after this.

True on both counts.

Can’t stop getting older, and just try and stop me from cracking bad jokes. :slight_smile:

To be fair, anyone who had to govern the Jersey Shore would go a little nutty in short order.

Really? So a member of your “tight knit” staff where you’re all “like a family” goes rogue and initiates an action that effects (how many? I don’t even know, tens of thousands, 100s of thousands…) including children getting to their first day of school, emergency vehicles performing potentially life-saving operations, people just needing to get to work, etc. and you have absolutely no idea why, you would’t first ask this person for an explanation? AND since you are being held responsible by the press and thus need an explanation not only to satisfy your own curiosity but the general public’s as well…

really?

And I’d certainly have to ask myself how my longtime friends and allies, both personally and professionally, all seem to be lying, vindictive assholes. Might it have something to do with me?

Yeah, I know - in Christie’s case, the answer is pretty obvious. But I’m not expecting any deep reflection from him.

Gotta say, it’s impressive how few defenders he suddenly has, the moment the shit hits the fan.

This scandal is kinda dull, but I’m thankful that the one article I read featured someone with the fantastic name: Inspector Darcy Licorish of the Port Authority Police Department.

This. The lane closures and resultant traffic jams were major local news at the time they happened. Probably the most unprecedented aspect was that no one was given any advance notice of the planned closures. For months now, Christie has been publicly denying any revenge motive in his typical nasty sarcastic style.

The official NY Daily News editorial received front page placement and didn’t pull any punches

“New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie’s one-hour-and-forty-seven-minute self-serving, self-pitying display of contrition on Thursday was a climactic act in a brazen cover-up that threatens to further unravel his political career.
Ever so thoroughly the governor scoured the thesaurus for words of apology, regret and painless self-flagellation while nervily playing the victim and mercilessly destroying the aide who played only a supporting role for the George Washington Bridge political revenge plot.”

Full article and cover photo here:

Is there any room left under the bus? Is his Mom still alive?

Whether she’s going to answer questions or not isn’t something that hinges on whether I’d fire her sorry ass. She’s clearly going to end up in front of a judge. Priority number one at that moment, for me, would be making sure security gets her the hell out of her office in ten minutes. She can make her explanations to the police and the jury. Or her emails can.

Let’s suppose Christie himself is telling the truth. That means Kelly lied to him outrageously and repeatedly for months. Why on earth would it do Christie any good to ask for answers from someone he cannot trust to tell him the truth? She’s either going to lie or lawyer up; nothing she says can be counted upon.

I stres that I do not know (and have significant doubts, really) that Christie IS telling the whole truth. My point is merely that if he is, immediately firing Kelly is logical. Such an outrageous breach of trust and ethics is an automatic termination offense in any organization, and “asking her for an explanation” before firing her is unlikely to yield a meaningful answer.

As a Republican who attacked a Democrat and a moderate in a party that’s predominantly conservative, he’s got few political allies.

It’s rather indefensible. I personally liked Christie, but if he knew about this it’s just completely unacceptable and grounds for impeachment, and at a minimum should cost him anyone’s vote ever. If he didn’t know, it casts a great deal of extremely troubling doubt on his judgment with regards to appointing people to important positions.

Hahahaha. Who accused the WSJ of lying? You?

Eventually, the story will come out and all of the silly rumors will be put to rest. Wouldn’t you like to know who started the rumors? You know, for future reference. In case the same “reporters”, pundits, bloggers, entertainers, start similar unsubstantiated rumors.

Oh, my.

THAT name just HAS to be slapped onto the lead character of a police procedural on BBC.

I don’t understand this reasoning at all. I never said her job would hinge on her answers to any questions. But she joined the administration in 2010. Again, this is a “tight-knit…family-like” administration according to Christie. If he was really “blindsided” by the sudden realization that this person he’s known and trusted for 3 years did something as outrageous and inexplicable like this I can’t believe any sane person’s first course of action wouldn’t be to ask her why. And he knew he was going to be giving a press conference. If he’s telling the complete and total truth why in the world wouldn’t he want to have some information directly from her to tell the press? If she clammed up or told him more bullshit, how much better would he look being able to tell the press that: “I questioned her repeatedly, and pressed her for some explanation, and all she could say was blah blah…”

Nonsense. More than anything else, this sticks out to me as the most damning piece of his story.

I picked up on that technicality too. Christie was very careful to say his lawyer and chief of staff questioned the staff members for an hour. Thats lawyer crap in action. Any boss would normally call an employee into their office and question them. Answering to your boss is something we all do.

Christie is a lawyer and he acted like one in this situation.

I’m still reading the documents. I’m surprised Port Authority executive director Patrick Foye isn’t in trouble. He’s included in most of the emails. He almost never says anything. Steve Coleman the Port spokesman is constantly asking for guidance with the press requests on the bridge closures. Foye is just mute. The crap is hitting the fan and the executive director says nothing?

Compare that to this email where Foye says he’ll investigate. I’m not seeing where he investigates anything.
http://www.newsday.com/news/region-state/pa-chief-patrick-foye-s-email-on-george-washington-bridge-closures-1.6774938

At a minimum Foye fails to lead.

NY Times reports on how the the Port Authority leadership has divided powers. Foye is a NY appointee as executive director. Samson is a NJ appointed director. It makes my head hurt even thinking about this tangled mess.