Did Christie (or his staff) intentionally cause the Fort Lee traffic jam?

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Is THAT what you’ve been trying to prove? FYI - I’ve never said I was going to vote for Christie. Since Christie has never said that he’s actually running for President and the GOP convention isn’t until 2016, I hadn’t jumped to the same conclusion as you must have.

I guess you’re under the impression that Hillary is also running for President?

Look, the report is out. It is now perfectly clear that the whole event was initiated by Kelly because she had ‘man trouble’ and lost her mind over that, the way a woman will, don’t you know. I’m sure that should Christie achieve the Presidency he will never again make the mistake of giving a woman a position with any power. They are just too prone to fits of irrationality, right? I mean, who knows why they do what they do?

More trouble for Christie- Wildstein has been spending some quality time at the US Attorney’s office. He’s either negotiating his immunity or he’s already got it and has begun to sing. The sooner we get Christie and Samson behind bars, the better.

No. :rolleyes:

What *you *have been trying to prove, for reasons best understood by yourself, is that Christie had nothing to do with this. You’ve even gone to the point, just a few posts ago, of denying that it’s even possible. :smiley:

This has been amusing, to a point, but it’s become repetitive.

I have no idea if Christie was involved in the Great NJ Lane Reassignment. None what-so-ev-ah. I only want to see proof of Christie’s guilt before I succumb to groupspeak. I have questioned the media outlet’s rumors, Zimmer’s multiple versions of what might have happened to her, Carl Lewis’s attempt for publicity, as well as many other “Christie must be guilty” stories. None of them have produced any evidence that Christie was involved in the GNJLR. Yet.

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Which now appears to be happening. So why would the feds even offer itmmunity, unless to get at the guy who ordered it, who would be … Port Authority Baroni, right? :wink:

The probability of Christie even completing his current term in office is not 0, but is much less than 1.

Well, sure, there’s a spider web, and a spider right in the middle of it, munching flies. But does that prove that the spider built the web, that the spider is directly responsible for its construction? Is there video or photographic evidence, did anyone actually see the spider build the web?

Without that, all you’ve got is inference and suggestion, he might have been merely strolling along the tree branch above the web, stumbled and fell in or was bumped by a nearsighted bumblebee! OK, probably it was built by a spider, but this particular spider? Where’s the proof of that, I ask you! Might have been a Georgia Peanut Spider, working for Habitat for Arachnidity, we just don’t know!

David Wildstein, who has said he informed Christie of the lane closings on Sept. 11 as they were happening, spent several days at New Jersey U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman’s office in Newark, the people said. Neither Fishman’s spokeswoman nor Wildstein’s attorney would confirm the talks.

http://www.mainjustice.com/2014/04/06/david-wildstein-meets-with-prosecutors-in-christie-bridge-probe/

Hmmm? If the Great NJ Lane Reassignment began on the first day of school, Sept. 9, why would Port Authority Wildstein need to inform Christie on Sept. 11, that the lanes closings were taking place?

Is Port Authority Wildstein suggesting that Christie was not involved in the planning and execution of the Great NJ Lane Reassignment?

Which spider do you believe is the fucking Republican spider? The fat one? The one dining on flys in the web you’ve chosen to look at. The spider in different web? Or the spider who must have caused Sokolich to poop in his pants?

Democrat spiders are vegan.

Democratic spiders.

Really, 'luci?

In in the process of reading the article about Christie in The New Yorker. (Behind a paywall, I think.) Haven’t gotten to the good stuff yet, but it seems that his first run for public office didn’t work because he didn’t live in the district he wanted to represent and he forged signatures on the petition, he got elected to a local position after he lied about three other candidates being under investigation. They weren’t, he got creamed in the next election, got sued and had to apologize.
Definitely the kind of slimeball who would order this stunt, and who has enough experience to not leave a paper trail.

Does your New Yorker article contain the prerequisite mention of the still unproven rumor that Christie wanted to punish Sokolich for not endorsing Christie?

If someone spreads a rumor that Christie is a registered goat-fucker, it has no bearing on the situation. Being the victim of rumors doesn’t prove anything. Even assuming its not true.

You seem more obsessed with this potential explanation for the motive here than any of the other facts surrounding the scandal.

We don’t even know yet if Christie was involved (although I have my suspicions), so we certainly can’t know why. It will all come out in due time. Be patient.

I don’t believe he’s registered.

So, right there, the rumor is false! Which means that he is the victim of false rumors spread by scoundrels. blackguards, and hippies! If that isn’t proof of his innocence, then what is?

The thing about the mayor isn’t so much a matter of evidence, its a matter of trying to think up a semi-rational reason why this clusterfuck happened in the first place. And this thing is so fucking stupid, its a hard thing to do, a challenge.

From NYTimes 4/12/14

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Firing the Ethics Commissioners when they start looking into your affairs uncomfortably closely is not a good career move, if there’s a risk it will come out, like it just did.

Yet another article suggesting that Bridget Kelly is a bad person.

*While the complaint is not public, a one-page letter the commission provided at the newspaper’s request shows that Barbara Panebianco, an executive assistant who worked for Bill Stepien and Bridget Anne Kelly — two former top aides to Christie — was investigated for possibly violating New Jersey’s conflicts of interest law.

…Schluter, and two others who have served on the commission, speaking on condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation, give the following account of how the complaint was handled
…In response to questions from the newspaper, Berns, who was appointed by Christie as the commission’s chairman in October 2010, said the investigation of Panebianco had nothing to do with removing Wiechnik.

“This investigation played no role in the decision to replace Kathy Wiechnik, and Schluter’s apparent suggestion to you that it did is blatantly inaccurate and disingenuous,” Berns said. “I had no knowledge that Kathy Wiechnik was investigating Barbara Panebianco until sometime after the investigation was concluded and the matter was presented to the commission.”

He said his decision to replace Wiechnik predated December 2010, and that he made it before the Panebianco complaint was filed in November*.

I wonder who the two unnamed sources are? Joy Behar? Bill Maher?

I found the reply to the article from DrBID to be interesting. -

*YAWN More accusations from 2 unnamed sources and one who you did name was appointed by JON CORZINE!!!. Why didn’t you disclose that to your readers???

Just because the BridgeGate Phony Scandal fell apart, now try to smear Christie with something else…

Most news organizations with integrity would hold off on printing a story without all the facts and background information. For example, did any of these ex-commissioners have a grudge against Christie, like being fired by him?

So at least one was a Jon Corzine crony, how about the other two? What were they mad at Christie for?*

I question why DrBID would think there are still news organizations with integrity that would hold off on printing a story without all the facts and background information. Especially when the public doesn’t demand that they do so.