You confuse any interest in your opinion with my puzzlement of you coming into the thread and commenting on my ability to have divined the thrust of the OP by reading merely the headline—without commenting on the thread itself. But now that you have shared your thoughts, I see that you agree with my assessment. Excellent. I strongly suggest you adopt a strategy of agreeing with my assessments from here on out, as it has served you so well here.
It’s not the OP’s rant.
Looks like disinformational agitprop to me…a red herring planted by someone wishing to stir up people one way or the other, then sit back and enjoy the ensuing chaos.
The story sounds like pure BS to me.
As I read through this thread, I shake my head and again understand why I label modern american liberalism as a mental illness.
It isn’t the views the liberal holds, it is how the liberal holds those views. Thus, Fox News promotes hatred, people who listen to Fox News are bigots, or stupid, or don’t have both oars in the water. And some people are willing to give credence to the screed that heads this thread.
And then, they insist that they are both rational and intelligent!!! And tolerant. Tolerant!!! ROTFLMAO.
Reasonable people can reasonably disagree. Two people can look at the same set of facts and reach very different conclusions from them.
The essential - the KEY feature of a Republic is that the people are both tolerant of, and willing to listen to and consider, different viewpoints. But the modern american Left has almost totally lost that ability.
In fact, modern american liberalism has become a religion, and modern american liberals are bigots exactly the same way as those on the far religious right are bigots: “if you aren’t with us, you are against us”, and “we’re the good ones, the smart ones, the sophisticated ones, and the best ones, and if you don’t see it our way you are…etc, etc, etc”. They sound EXACTLY like the far-right religious zealots. They sound INDISTINGUISHABLE from them, except, of course, for what they rant about.
Too bad. The Republic has probably had it because, in significant part because of the insanity of the Left, there is no longer any rational discussion of the great issues of this society. So the Republic will fall.
Shhhhh, Bemused. Do you want to be taken to Room 101?
Yeah, I’d go as far as to say Murdoch himself may be behind it.
Uhm, right. Well, hope you and your Ubermensch buddies are around to pick up the pieces.
I’m confused. Do you think that the question of whether Obama is a Muslim deserves rational discussion? How about death panels? How about his birthplace? How about Bush conspiring to cause 9/11? (Yes, there are left wing kooks also - the difference is that Truthers don’t get sympathy from those in power, unlike Birthers.) Do you think that all questions have two equally legitimate sides? And do you think that Fox actually is dedicated to giving a “fair and balanced” account of the News, as opposed to one side?
This part sounds logical, as in most people know someone who thinks like this, Fox news or not.
People my mother’s age, in their prime years during the age of the Fairness Doctrine, were literally indoctrinated to thinking all news is true or they wouldn’t be able to broadcast it. My mother was uneducated and a lifelong Republican, back when it truly was my father’s Republican Party. About ten days before mother died she tripped and fell and refused to go to the doctor, saying Obama would get her information and use it against her and that his death panels would decide her fate, instead of her. No amount of logic or love could convince her otherwise.
Then he goes on to talk about … State Rape?
*Rape by the state is now in effect in Texas and Virginia, and being proposed by GOPers in several other Republican controlled states. No Democrats are passing laws like this. It is the Republican Party that has become America’s Taliban by methodically assaulting women’s rights. The Texas law does not provide for free and voluntary consent by the woman. The law states that before the sonogram that is conducted prior to an abortion, the pregnant woman must sign a form that is called the “abortion and sonogram election,” which includes the statements that “Texas law requires that I receive a sonogram prior to receiving an abortion,” and that she is “making this election of my own free will and without coercion.” How is this voluntary consent when the ultrasound is mandated by law? When our planet is dying from global warming, over population, pollution, etc., what possible reasons can legislators have to pass laws like this, which is tantamount to state rape. *
Legally contribute to her death? Not in any criminal sense, and not civilly either.
Ethically and morally, however, I fully believe that misinforming people on health matters can cause culpability for death. If I told people not to seek medical care and they relied on it, even if they were crazy in relying on it, I would certainly feel partly responsible.
News is important business. Sometimes people will die if they rely on bullshit news. Is Fox bullshit news? They’ve reported and I’ve decided that they are bullshit news.
Fair enough. I’ll keep exercising reason, you stick to your blind squirrel approach, and occasionally we twain shall meet.
Cool screed, bro. Giving it a test drive while you wait for an on-topic thread to use it in?
Your grandmother sounds like my late grandmother - except she wasn’t watching Fox News, but listening to shortwave radio broadcasts. And you absolutely couldn’t convince her that the government wasn’t secretly building concentration camps in which all the HIV-positive people in the US were going to be incarcerated. (That’s the only one of her crazy conspiracy theories I remember right now, but I know she had several, and they were all just as whacked.)
For some reason many elderly people who aren’t technically demented seem to be unusually susceptible to paranoid conspiracy theories, and I can certainly see how in some cases that paranoia could be dangerous or even fatal. I don’t see how we can hold Fox News (or any other media outlet) responsible for any resulting tragedies, but I do wish the media in general would remember that not everyone watching has a full set of bulbs in their chandelier and take that into account when they write their broadcasts.
No doubt that Fox News traffics in misinformation. But if this story reeked anymore of bullshit, you’d think you were in the middle of a stockyard.
And even if this story were true (and that’s a Mt. Everest-sized if), then it would mean simply that this woman was an idiot of the highest order.
Consider me Bemused by this post. ![]()
Pretty much everyone who has posted in here has come down against the rant in the OP. That would seem to indicate that the Left is a little more sensible then you may have thought, or you are just going to move the goalposts around until the results suit you.
Either the US stopped being a Republic a really long time ago, or you totally made this up.
Though there are plenty of people with tons of stupid to spare, this is exactly what I was thinking. Probably not true, but if it is, I believe that there really is a thing as “too stupid to live” and this crosses that line.
Fox News is reprehensible but not responsible.