Mojo – the Jews were the only ones singled out in the law I mentioned (late 1938). Nobody else was. So, like I said, total gun control was enacted for them.
By the way, I mean, “no more graceful than a COMPUTER translator”.
On that “Swiss and Swiss” thing - the original uses schweizerinnen und Schweizer - female and male Swiss. The translator was just simplifying.
David, I’m not arguing the fact that Jews were the only people mentioned in the 1938 law. What I am wondering is how available guns were to the general populace aside from Nazi soldiers and Jews. Just because there’s no law(s) prohibiting firearm ownership doesn’t mean that they could own firearms.
Well, I think that was kind of explained. The previous government passed the gun law to try to take guns away from the Nazis and Communists, who were fighting each other. Hitler used that law to prohibit guns from those he didn’t like. So how available? Not very, unless the Nazis wanted you to have one or you managed to illegally obtain one.
Illegally obtaining a gun was/is still out of the question for a nation composed of such law abiding citizens as the germans. The morality of a law is not to be challenged in the german mind.
Imagine for a moment the following scenario: The German Communists win the 1926 elections, impose single party rule (SOP for Communists), join the Soviet Union (as the German Soviet Socialist Republic), which then annexes Poland (Polish Soviet Socialist Republic). Germany is now the powerhouse of Soviet industry, Ukraine the breadbasket, and Russia/Siberia the oil supplier. The British Government whines about Poland, but does not declare war.
Encouraged by success in Germany, Communists are either elected or couped into power in all of eastern and central Europe, including Austria and Italy (which provides all year harbour facilities on the Mediterranean Sea, complementing North Sea and Baltic harbours).
Mass produced tanks - a russian novelty - quickly overcome resistance in Benelux, France and Spain, where they have been called in to “assist in the quelling of civil disruption”.
DavidB- Thank you. I did read the addendum you posted but must’ve glossed over the “undoubted reliability” part which answers what I was asking. The laws were already there, they were just enforced differently when the nazis came to power.
I’m a newbie here, so I’ll make sure to offend as many people as possible. As Europe has had a long history of semi-civilised stabilty, guns had been controlled. There was no “Wild West”. Guns had long been controlled in Germany before Hitler. Also, any idiot who thinks that private ownership of guns can control tyranny, was obviously asleep when the FBI taught David Koresh how to properly use firearms.
Hitler, Stalin and Milosovich ‘civilised’? (and that’s only during the last century)
Gassing and burning women and children “taught” David Koresh? “taught” him what?
Your grip on reality is so weak, I’m wondering which mental institution you’re posting from???
That’s funny-the newest testimony from members of Mr. Koresh’s cult is that the fire was started by his little group, NOT the Feds.
I doubt if a lack of Gun Control would have stopped Hitler from coming to power, or persecuting the Jews and others. However, having guns to fight back would have led to more “warsaw uprisings” and less people led like lambs to the slaughter. My people were led into those camps, also, and altho some did fight back, I beleive dying after taking one of the Nazis down 1st is a better way to go than dying helpless. Even a few 10’s of thousands of Nazis dead would have made the world a better place.
Sneevil: <<Your grip on reality is so weak, I’m wondering which mental institution you’re posting from??? >>
[moderator hat on] I’m letting this stand, but it’s in a sort of grey area… coming close to an insult of a type not permitted in this forum. Treading near the edge of a fuzzy line.
This is a forum for polite interchange of ideas. You wanna do name-calling, go to the forum called BBQ PIT. [/moderator hat off]
Why did the Hungarian Jews not resist deporation to concentration Camps?
Most of those being deported, whether Jews or others, believed the Big Lie – that they were being transported to work camps. Life was miserable, but they didn’t imagine the horrifying reality, that the Nazis planned a systematic extermination. Germany, after all, represented the height of civilization, in music, in philosophy, in film and arts, etc.
Resistance, in any form, meant certain and immediate death; they hoped that compliance gave them a chance at life.
I agree with CKD, BUT- some did not fight back, as they had nothing to fight back with. In the later period it was starting to get more obvious that the camps were death traps. Unfortunately it was too late for many of the 1st victims of Nazi oppression, ie the Jews. Some of my people became partisans, and fought back in the Carpathian mts. Others were deported to the “work camps”. The survival rate was about the same- grim, but it is better to die fighting, IF you can. For most German Jews, they had no opportunity to do so, nor the knowledge of what was going to happen.
If there had been more guns, there would have been more dead Nazis. And that’s a GOOD thing.
Just curious, Daniel, but who are your people?
There is a tiny (almost) country in Europe, known variously as Ruthenia, Galicia, Trans-Carpatho Ukraine, etc. If you define it as a “country” (It was an independent country for exactly one day, but a semi-autonomous part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, for decades), and you define Russia as not being “European”, it was the “last european county to free the serfs”. To find it, follow the old map of Czechoslovakia, which is shaped like a tadpole. In pre WWII days, it was the tip of the tadpole, after the war, the Czechs gave it to Russia (No, really), and it was incorperated into the Ukraine. During WWII, while the Nazis were partitioning up Czech., Ruthenia declared its independence. Nazi- allied tanks rolled in the next day. Some of the unarmed city dwellers protested- they were rounded up & sent to slave labor camps, as “slavic” undesirables. Many of the cossacks became partizens, further infuriating the Nazis.
MY Great-Grandfather, and Grandfather, and the whole brood, moved out just before WWI, as the Imperial Government started to take away their “semi-autonomous” status, resulting in terrible things like; taxes, army drafts, and freeing the serfs. (An actual quote from my Grandmother; Me @ 8yrs- “Babuska, were we Cossacks in the Old Country?” “No, Dear, we kept Cossacks to keep the serfs in line”) They moved to Sask*, Canada, but many kept in touch with “the old country”, and relatives, and sent $$ for aid. After the Nazis took over, there was a great dearth of info, but some heard that whole families were sent to “the camps”.
Now. aren’t you sorry you asked? 
- where there are scads of 'cousins", all of us look a bit alike, too, poor bastards.
So, Daniel, are you going to come to Stubblejumper Dope-Fest in Weyburn and then look up your cousins?