Did Jesus really exist? And what's with the Shroud of Turin?

But that doesn’t eliminate the historical Jesus. The Gospels are a mythical construct to sell the idea that Jesus was the Messiah predicted by Jewish tradition. But, Jesus never made that claim and did not support others who made it.

If you are seriously interested then read Mark 1. It is the proto Gospel and the only one that contains fragments of the original text. There is a description of Jesus at Galilee in Mark 1:22 (ASV):

“And they were astonished at his teaching: for he taught them as having authority, and not as the scribes.”

He taught a humanist philosophy, not the biblical scriptures. He joined a group that was running a medicine show and became their star act. They sometimes disagree on funding, philosophy and history. He repeatedly admonishes them to not tell people he is god or that he is working miracles. After 3 years he tells them he is returning home. They panic because that would leave them bankrupt (Jesus paid for the last supper). They will do anything to keep him from leaving. Hence they keep trying various schemes until they manage to get him crucified. It’s been a long time since I read it, but the book “The Passover Plot” covers the crucifixion. .

Most of the book of Mark is a hard sell by the Apostles, but close examination exposes the real Jesus. Of course, the Apostles won and went on to create the elaborate mythology of the misnamed ‘Christianity’.

So again, if you are really interested, read Mark 1 and let’s discuss it. Pay special attention to the woman who touched his garment, That’s where Jesus explains that the stuff about devils and miracles is just eye wash for the ignorant.

Crane