And what would be an ‘A’ ? Living in some kind of fantastic ‘Star Trek’ world with perfect peace, happiness and no disease? Good luck. This is a fallen world and some of us are doing the best we can.
I find Bryan Ekers post to be, if a little blunt, to be at least honest and realistic. But that’s me.
I would like to ecplain what I meant by humans not doing a great job as a species. Cus, I agree with the others that as an earth species, we are doing perty darn good. What I meant was , that relative to man’s own morals and goals we are not doing too great of a job. And that striving for “excellence” while failing to impliment it on most occassions means, to me, that we are not living up to our potential, and compared to man’s desires, we are a violent/warlike species.
That’s exactly the point of this discussion. This description for an “A” world is the kind of one people like you AND I can give, since most of our needs are satisfied. As mentioned above, we have different standards for measure. The problem is that human has certain basic standards that are not being accomplished at all for most of us on this planet. Take some African countries for instance. A cup of rice for an Ethiopian would take him to “Star Trek World”. Do you see the difference?
If it’s so empty why are you still here? Please, don’t bother sending anymore replies. You’re such a pain in the ***. You look like a 12 year old boy answering the questions. :smack:
That makes me think of a related topic. Since our forebearers did all the work of freeing our country from the British domination, we have had it pretty good. I think that many Americans from the United States just think that if somebody wanted the “good life” then by golly, just do it! Have your revolution, your war of independence, your 1776, as it were. We have many advantages in regards our resources and our geography but c’mon, we’re still fairly new on the scene, historically speaking. What’s stopping that Ethiopian from organizing and putting his country in order so he can have that cup of rice?
Welcome to the boards dantep, Emile Whites, James Elliot and IMF.
So now You have met our "You, all whiners, You - Bryan - *I know You are a little bit Young, but…*Ekers"
Anyhow,
As an animal the human being is a collector and a hunter. When everything is collected, mainly by “those others”, or there is nothing to hunt anymore, the animal called Homo Sapiens, begins to show his teeth.
And the conflict can begin.
As a whole, Homo Sapiens still has a chance.
On the other hand, upper-class brats are the shining proof of the complete success of mankind. Why?
Becuse when they get older, they can still act like brats, and keep their position among their own sociaty.
Please go on, some posts here is very interesting, on other hand do not lose to much time on…, something that is not relevant to the issue…, like me :).
I agree with your position, but am surprised that you argue it. As one who has accepted ‘what is’ (money talks, etc.), you must also realize that some people will go down kicking and screaming to the end.
This sentence is being written after I have erased about 5 different beginnings. I just find it a waste of time. What’s the whole point?
I had to read about a non-sense Oprah-like kind of answer like: why don’t the ethiopians make their own revolution? Who’s stopping them? Or: I prefer to amuse myself making fun of your statements.
Well, as one of my last time wasting my time in this discussion, I share some thoughts. Bryan, if you want to ammuse yourself, believe me, there are many other and better things. Maybe you haven’t tried them yet.
BMailon, do a favor to yourself and keep from asking such questions. I don’t even think it’s worth answering you.
Once and for all, the point being discussed here covers the majority of world population, who don’t live in proper conditions. Whether anyone is being realistic and honest about what everyone already knows simply don’t answer the question.
Contradictions seem to have prevailed in the discussion. I saw people saying that life is rough, politicians lie, bullets are there to resolve problems, etc and still giving mankind an A.
So, I don’t see any possibility of improvement in this discussion. So, I will rest my case.
Cheers and thank you all very much.
Alea jacta est.
IMF
‘Living is easy with eyes closed,
Misunderstanding all you see.’ (Strawberry Fields Forever - The Beatles)
Well, don’t ask me a question and then tell me not to reply.
That’s just plain silly.
And you can say “ass”. I don’t mind. As for my apparant age, I must point out that silly questions (like yours) often invite smart-ass replies (like mine).
Why that’s the most amusing thing I’ve heard today. Countering to your arguments requires the merest fraction of a fraction of my intellect and only a minute or two at a time; easy to pull off during the not-infrequent feminine hygiene product commercials while I wait for Jeopardy to return.
Okay, there is misery and there is starvation, but using these to conclude that mankind is a failure is illogical. It would be far better to contemplate mankind’s successes, and contemplate using these successes to alleviate suffering. I look forward to genetically-modified crops, myself, though I have no illusions that brutal power struggles and corruption in the poorest nations will prevent many of the benefits from reaching those that need them.
Humanity: I give a B+, with the + coming when Apollo 11 touched down. I think it’ll get an A- when democracy and capitalism become majority systems, and an A when worldwide life expectancy reaches 75 or so.
And “Living is easy with eyes closed” ? Uh, no it isn’t. If it was, how could Baby drive my car?