Well, that’s that. Moral high ground: Lost.
I’m being facetious, folks. But his changing of his war stories does make me respect him less. he had a perfectly honorable narrative the way it was. He doesn’t have to embellish.
Dio, to borrow a phrase of yours that you broadbrushed other posters with when they made the jump from “John Edwards meets hussy at a hotel in the wee hours of the morning, alone” to “John Edwards was banging hussy”… you’re just engaging in wild speculation.
Maybe not the best example…
I think that’s quite beyond the pale.
I’m engaging in skepticism about changing stories.
You know, when I go down to the VFW hall, I hear lots of stories told. And lots of them are what we called “sea stories” in the Navy - stories whose truth is found in a plane besides the literal one, so to speak.
Now, I have no way of knowing whether this is a sea story - and neither do any of you.
Did John McCain engage in religious activity in the POW camps? That’s undeniably true - he states that his faith helped him, other prisoners there engaged in services with him and had similar experiences, and many of them remember McCain remembering large quantities of the Book of Common Prayer and some Scripture verbatim. If they remembered things wildly at odds with the guard story then I think we could more easily call BS on the whole thing.
I think it is necessary to call politicians on their “sea stories” if we have proof. I’m not even above questioning their stories in the absence of it. But sometimes you can’t know for sure. And in the face of the available other evidence that McCain can point to to bolster his claims of this time period (which do not support Diogenes’ wild claims, needless to say) a politician would be a fool to chase this.
If he was sitting around telling stories at the VFW, I wouldn’t question them. When he appears to be making up stories to pander for votes, then it’s fair to question his honesty
Nice.
“It may be typical of the pro-Obama Dungeons & Dragons crowd to disparage a fellow countryman’s memory of war from the comfort of mom’s basement…”
Wow, he forgot about walking uphill in bare feet in a snowstorm both ways…
God, the McCain campaign is nasty. Even nastier than Bush I thought they weren’t going to do that. I guess they’re sensitive when their guy gets busted for making up stories.
The “pro-Obama Dungeons & Dragons crowd”?
Wait… what? Pro-Obama Dungeons & Dragons crowd? What the heck does that have to do with anything?
They’re trying to say that anyone who supports Obama is a basement dwelling loser who has never served in the military.
I’ll start off by saying I’m a McCain guy, so you McCain haters can ignore the rest of this…
Without any direct proof of lying I’m of the opinion that speculation is stupid. He could have made it up but I could have flying monkeys at home. I put this in the same category as the “Swiftboat” controversy (which I also thought was pointless): people will believe anything negative about the “other guy”.
What’s the advantage to you in saying falsely that you have a houseful of flying monkeys?
I know what the advantage to McCain in making up shit is.
I would have never thought question it if he hadn’t changed his Green Bay Packers story. I still think his cross glurge story might be true, but I’m not convinced that his word is reliable anymore. Espcially since he’s altered details about it.
Well I remember you said you were in the military. Hmmmm…
I give McCain the same lattitude.
If you have proof that McCain lied then by all means hammer him. All I’ve seen so far is speculation; coming up with a reason why he might lie is not proof. It’s the same shaky stuff that the Swiftboat Veterans were hitting Kerry with. I see a parallel with the Obama/Communist thread: it is easy to believe inane accusations against those who have different political opinions.