Did the ancients really frequently practice infanticide?

I’ve heard it claimed, I don’t think I believe it. Supposedly it ended amongst the Norse with the advent of Christianity, led to high Jewish population growth in the classical world because they didn’t practice it, and so on. But I’ve never seen any evidence for it at all. The Spartans, for example, are supposed to have thrown deformed children down a big hole. Archaeology shows a distinct lack of child bones down that hole, which seems to have actually been used to dispose of criminals. The Spartans also had at least one deformed king.

So, did it really happen, in the Viking lands, the Roman Empire or Hellas?

Numerous charred child bones have been found on a site in Carthage that is supposed to have been a sacrificial place. However, this is disputed by some historians/archeologists (could have been the remains of stillborns/children dead in infancy who, for some religious reason or another, would have been burnt and burried there, for instance)

Indisputably, according to Wiki, and not just by the ‘ancients’. It’s something that happens even in this day and age. :frowning:

I just read about the “myth” of Sparta and infanticide, pointing out the lack of infant remains in that pit as proof that it never happened.

Since newborns have bones which are in the process of hardening, wouldn’t it be likely that such soft tissue would decay or be eaten?

And if it was a pit that was open to the elements (and animals), after 2000+ years, I would be very surprised to find any bones, dating from that period. :dubious:

[Ahnold Schwarzenegger]It’s not a [del]tumah[/del] pit.[/Ahnold Schwarzenegger]

Maybe the fantasy movie “300” is the [modern] source of this “pit” myth? I see there’s a reference to a pit in Wikipedia too…

…but I’d always read that the Spartans abandoned children they considered unfit on a hillside to die of exposure.

Cite

Here’s a cite that suggests the pit story is a myth and endorses the hillside exposure:

Added too late: if what most historians have said (hillside) is true, then obviously excavation of a pit will not prove anything about Spartan practice of infanticide.

Considering the high level of infant mortality in ancient times, I suspect that they would have been unlikely to be chucking them down pits. Handicapped and sickly children would be less likely to survive that fit healthy ones.

Consider what happens in poor and primitive places today. The general consensus is that the more children you have, the more likely you are to have someone to support you in your old age.

If it is true that jews had a higher survival rate, it may be down to their dietary rules or some other effect related to the religion.

That’s precisely why the Spartans at least supposedly practiced it- why waste time and resources on a baby that was unlikely to survive anyway? Better to concentrate on your healthy children, than try and save a child that was probably never going to be fully healthy.

In their culture, you weren’t really a full citizen if you didn’t fight in the army- so even if your sickly child did survive, they were unlikely to be much of a support to you.

Many cultures didn’t really ‘count’ a baby until it was a few months old, probably due to the high early mortality rate, and lack of alternative birth control, so it often just wasn’t seen as a big deal to dispose of unwanted babies.

Re The Vikings

I don’t think I’ve ever come across stories of infanticide in Norse culture. All the references I’ve read of human sacrifice involved adults.

Re The Spartans

I agree with the other Dopers. The recommended procedure was staking the infant to a hillside in the wilderness, not throwing them down a pit. OTTOMH the myth of Oedipus has him being left on a hillside, not a pit.

I was under the impression that archeological evidence backed up tales of Moloch worshipers burning babies alive. I was also under the impression that Aztecs were just nuts for sacrificing infants.

(bolding mine)

Cite, please?
My impression of the Aztecs was that they were pretty much nuts about sacrificing, period. :eek:

I may have overstated the case and bow to your ammended version.

This article from National Geographic supports the theory that the Romans in Palestine probably practiced infanticide - at the site of a bathhouse (possibly a brothel) up to 100 infant skeletons were found 74% male.

However, a Roman site in the UK where many infant bones were discovered has been more contentious - claims that the building was a brothel has been disputed due to the lack of a major population centre to support it. Other researchers postulate that the site may have been a religious birthing centre, and the infants were still-born or died soon after birth.

I read that entire Wikipedia article yesterday and it has got to be about the saddest thing on the internet. Frowny face doesn’t seem like enough.

There was a recent article/study speculating that monogamy might have come about due to infanticide.

Cite please

Here you go.

(And here’s a Guardian piece on the study.)

I don’t think the OP is referring to human sacrifice but to infanticide as “family planning”, and exposure of children is well known as a practice in Norse Scandinavia.