You can rent a truck withsuper single tireson one axle, then it’s a 16-wheeler. An 18-wheeler can even be a 10-wheeler.
The students aren’t going away, btw. Nor should they.
Obviously, given recent news releases about the Toronto killer, what we really need to do is ban white men, and especially MRAs.
rent? why would a mass murderer invest the time and money to legally rent one when they could steal it? Is this some new code of honor we should expect?
Of course they aren’t. They have a sponsor for skip day. If they time it right they can tour the Smithsonian over the weekend.
Dunno. You could ask Abdel-Rahman. Or McVeigh.
No reply is warranted.
It’s impressive how dismissive you are of school shooting survivors. Truly a wonder to behold.
Y’know, if you’re going to make this out to be an issue with two sides, then it would behoove you to not place yourself on the same side as psychopaths who murder children.
I’m dismissing the adults who are using them to further a political agenda on the ramp-up to the next election. The children are being used.
Calling the children props isn’t dismissive? They have no agency of their own, no ability to critically think on the things that have impacted their lives?
Might as well use mannequins next time, apparently. Magiver can see through all that other bullshit.
And you’re free to disagree with them of course.
But the thing about “gives validation to the worst of the PRO-gun talking points” I personally think is misguided.
The gun control side has been beaten down into believing that we must find some “center ground” with the NRA and not come across as “gun grabbers”, and what has it got us?
I say fuck em. The country would be better with australia or Japan style gun control. If that option was on the table I’d take it.
I will freely admit it’s not a *practical *proposition: the country’s awash with guns and the idea that you need to have a gun in your home in case, I dunno, the langoliers show up, is too ingrained.
Necessary? No. Nothing is necessary but convincing the people.
But, from a practical standpoint? It’s extremely likely. The winds may finally be starting to change, but we’re just at the beginning. There is no reason to believe that laws will be passed before the next shooting, and there is every reason to believe that it will take another emotional event to break another hole in the emotional wall that has been built up.
There’s a reason why the lobbying to do something to prevent tragedies tends to happen after a relevant tragedy. That’s when people are least able to put up their blinders. That’s when the “it can’t happen to me or mine” feeling is the weakest. That is when the moments of clarity of just how bad these tragedies are hits home.
That’s when you can break through the default response.
I wish that weren’t the only time, but humanity still has trouble with “care about other people as much as yourself.” I still face opposition when I point out this obvious piece of morality.
What they got was what the “liberty vs security” argument looks like in real life. They wanted gun control, since gun control doesn’t affect them, and they saw no liberty interest. Now they’ve got annoying security and clear backpacks, which probably is making them a lot safer, but they’d rather be slightly less safe and not have to deal with all that. Many of them will learn something from that and become awesome libertarianish types.
The hell?
I guess not, after the massacre. Seeking gun control now is like locking the barn door after somebody walked in and shot all the horses.
I guess everyone the NRA has funded to further **their **agenda is also being “used”, has no agency of their own and can be dismissed. Good to know.
@ElvisLives:
I think what **adaher **meant was that the Parkland students aren’t gun owners themselves, and so gun restrictions or gun confiscation wouldn’t “affect” them in the sense of taking any of their guns away - they had no guns to lose.
But the clear backpacks and TSA-like lines do affect them in the sense of inconveniencing them.
No guns. Just lives.
Yeah…as targets.
And they’re no longer children.
Which is impressive, because I want stricter gun control. If that “slippery slopes” all the way to full registration and confiscation, then I guess I’ll have to give up my firearms as well. Hell, almost a third of NRA members (miniscule number that is) are on board with a national firearm purchase registry.
What they wanted was actual security.
What they got was security theater.