Is it true that we (the United States), taught most of the illicit drug producing countries of south and central America to grow Opium and Coca?:smack:
Opium maybe. But I didn’t think opium was a major crop in South and Central America. Coca has been grown there for hundreds of years, long before the US was in existence and even before Europe came into the colonization picture.
If the U.S. legalized marijuana, they would pull right out of debt. Reefer is safer than aspirin, and is America’s largest cash crop, FYI. They could tax it like alcohol and cigarettes.
Who’s “they” racosun? You’re going to have to provide some cites for your other claims in this forum too: in what way is “reefer safer than aspirin” and who says so? What stats do you have to indicate that marijuana is the USA’s largest cash crop?
Boy, I saw that coming.
Take it easy on the kid, he’s a newbie.
But that will require cites.
Not necessarily. Got any independent cites to counter this assertion?
Did that sound too harsh? If so, sorry racosun (as it happens I just told some people off for tearing a newbie to shreds in GD).
Does any of the pot talk address the OP?
Lethal Dose of Aspirin: 30 grams
Lethal Dose of MJ: 20,000 grams
It’s impossible to say how much reefer is sold in this country but suffice to say it is a tremendous amout. If it is not more then corn or tobacco it is damn close. It’s hard to cite numbers on black market transactions but in NYC alone let me tell ya . . .
Tax revenue would shoot up tremendously if this multi billion dollar trade were legalized and alot of legitimate jobs would be created for taxing as well. Crime rates would rise as a large percentage of criminals would lose an easy non-violent way to make money and start getting creative to make up for the loss.
DaLovin’ Dj
Jeez, I’m rabidly pro-legalization, but I know a hijack when I see one. Get a room, y’all, or search for one of the dozens of legalization threads in GD.
I’m biting my tounge, hard.
FACT: Some people have OD’d on aspirin
Lethal Dose of Aspirin: 30 grams
HISTORICAL FACT: Ever hear of someone od’n on MJ? No.
Lethal Dose of MJ: 20,000 grams - who’s gonna be able to smoke that much? or even eat 44+ lbs of it?
Wrecking a car while beating the smoking embers off your shirt doesn’t count. That would be dying from impaling or compaction.
The money matter here is purely speculative, but enormous.
the movie “Blow” about George Jung leads one to believe a house-full of money 20 years ago for just his operation. How can you measure something that is black-marketed? If it weren’t a threat, they’d leave it alone.
MJ causes lung damage that aspirin does not cause.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2498493.stm
A recent study showing a link between heavy MJ use and depression.
Lethal dose is a very narrow way for defining safety. And throwing out accidents caused by being to stoned to deal with life correctly seems pretty arbitrary to me.
Reefer is safer than aspirin
Define safer.
FACT: Some people have OD’d on aspirin
Lethal Dose of Aspirin: 30 grams
HISTORICAL FACT: Ever hear of someone od’n on MJ? No.
Lethal Dose of MJ: 20,000 grams - who’s gonna be able to smoke that much? or even eat 44+ lbs of it?
Are you going out of your way to sound stupid here? Hell, you could eat 300 grams of bullets and not die from doing so. Is that proof that guns are safer than aspirin?
Now, in terms of normal and intended use, and the results thereof, and frequency and degree of improper use, and the results thereof, I doubt you’ll find any evidence to support the notion that reefer is safer than aspirin.
Golly gee - I never smoked aspirin so I can’t vouch for that.
But I’ve lived quite a while after smokin some fine MJ.
I can say I’ve been kind of sad when my bag is gone, but not suicidal by any means.
Are we talkin’ 2-3 joint a day habit to be a heavy toker.
Government studies can link anything they want to in order to promote their view. Is that the gospel?
Historical use studies will tell you contrary OD safety info.
If you’re talking about the MJ rats experiment - well hell yea something’s gonna go wrong when THAT is all you breath for days on end. No rocket science here.
qersys, where did you hear that? I can believe it happened, but I’m curious, too.
oops, sorry, I thought we were in GQ. Never mind, we needed another marijuana legalization debate. Carry on.
TC what the hell does smoking aspirin have to do with anything?
Certainly, without the massive U.S. market for cocaine, it would be less of a cash crop for Central and South America than it is. Certainly, the processing of coca leaves into pure cocaine was developed in Europe. However, coca leaves were used in its native land, and in its native state, long before Europeans entered America.
http://www.thesite.org/magazine/specials_truth_about_drugs/where_it_comes_from/the_origins_of_cocaine_and_crack.html
Opium is not native to the Americas, and is not a significant crop here. Morphine and heroin are indeed European improvements, but as with coca, opium was used for millennia before Europeans got to it.
http://www.thesite.org/magazine/specials_truth_about_drugs/where_it_comes_from/the_origins_of_heroin_and_opiates.html
Yay! Someone addressed the OP!
The rest of you guys knock it off. Now that the boards are running good and fast, it takes me all of two seconds to delete the entire content of a post. And I will. So don’t waste your time.
I had heard that after WWI The United states was worried about their supply of morphine, used as a pain killer could be compromised if certain countries were to be invaded by one of our enemies. From what I understand some genius in the government taught some of the coffee growers somewhere in
S. A. to grow opium poppies.
I don’t know if all of this info is correct or complete. Has anyone else heard about this?