Because I get the National edition of the Times. That gets printed early, so you learn to expect that some things won’t be in it. Nighttime sports scores, e.g. When big events like the Oscars happen, they’ll run an article on the first hour. Things that start at 8:30 have plenty of time to make the paper in some fashion.
But not the Democratic Debate. Not on the front page. Not inside in the National news section. Not in the Arts section, which covers television events.
Nothing. Not one word. If it weren’t for an op-ed article talking about what might happen in it, no reader would ever know that it was a thing.
Let me say that again. The New York Times did not cover the previous day’s biggest news in its National edition.
I give up. The sun will rise in the west. Trump will get the nomination. The NRA will ban bullets. Obama will declare martial law and stay on as president. Where it all will end, knows God.
Looks like the NYT is the senior citizen of print newspapers. Out to Denny’s at 4:30 for the Early Bird special for dinner, then back to the newsroom to put the paper to bed by 7.
I stopped reading the newspaper decades ago for precisely this reason. I miss it, too, to this day. But it was just too late to be called “news” any more.
That said, as an actual subscriber, you can almost certainly find stories in their online edition.
Yes, for all zero of the people who have the print version of the Times as their only source of news.
OK, that was cheap. I do agree with you: If the Times is going to put out a print version, it behooves them to act like it and create pieces of paper printed with the relevant news of the day, as opposed to whatever they scrape off the newsroom floor. The Missoula Independent (which is, as its name implies, a local free alternative weekly) has better news sense than that.
Once the newspapers get into the (apparent) mindset of “We can’t compete with Internet coverage” we both know precisely where it will end. It’s just a matter of watching the reaction run to completion. I do, however, think the inverted pyramid will survive the death of print news.
If Hilz had committed a major fuck-up during the debate, you can be sure the Times would have bannered that shit above the fold.
When Podliska spoke up about being unlawfully fired from the Benghazi Commission for not doing enough to target Clinton, the Times buried the story on page 16.
I’ve been really happy that Maureen Dowd seems to be taking some kind of sabbatical, or is maybe sleeping off a four-week binge in a drunk tank somewhere. Frank Bruni took up her “Attack Clintons at All Costs” banner on the op-ed page, but his writing seldom reaches the depths of Mo’s.
I still read the paper Times every day, but their approach to the Clintons really pisses me off.
The Monday after Oscars night they report on the early winners and that is it. No Best Picture coverage. Do you want a story about candidate X doing great only have him do a Rick Perry after deadline? Especially now that if you care you can read the story on line.
I get it delivered here on the left coast, and am used to this. The debate ending at 8 PM for me makes it worth it.
The print edition of The New York Times is still the paper of record for this country. It drives what all other journalism talks about the next day. Don’t tell me that the Internet does that. Stories break on the Internet; people don’t read stories on the Internet, especially if they’re a page long. They get read in print. That’s the reality for the audience of the print Times, which includes virtually all of the political class. They’ve been reading it all their lives. The habit of decades hasn’t been broken and won’t be anytime soon.
The “real” New York Times covered the debate. The “real” Times is the city edition. The national edition is what the rest of us are stuck with. The Times wants all of us to pretend we’re getting the “real” Times. Omitting all discussion of the biggest event of the day out of the paper is a ludicrously bad decision. Don’t tell that something could have happened in the last half. Anything can always happen five minutes after deadline. The paper of record covers every minute until deadline. Always. Until now. This was utterly amazing.
Does the national edition show the big stories it missed from the day before? Such that a sequence of those editions forms a complete record, but with some news delayed?
[off-topic] I subscribed to the “N.Y. Times International Edition(*)” here in Middle-of-nowhere, rural Thailand. It came several days late, but that often didn’t matter since it was almost my only news source! (Occasionally a friend would comment about a big story and I’d have to say “Let’s talk about this next week.” :smack: * - Despite the “New York” in the name, the paper was edited in Paris, printed in Singapore, and flown to Bangkok by morning. The several-day delay was postal delay within Thailand.)