Dirty old skanks at the gym

Hey I’m not the one getting my gym shorts in a knot over a moist rowing machine handlebar. (And just not believing that someone else couldn’t give a shit about it when I warned him of impending moistness!)

As far as chillin’ about people using “fat” as an insult and promoting fat stereotypes … true story - 30 something years ago that’s what some told me when I would speak up when they used “fag” and “he’s so gay” as casual insults. It was socially acceptable to denigrate that group of people so I was the odd one to take exception to it. (No, I didn’t go around correcting people I did not know, but friends began to know that calling people fags around me would get that response and at least learned that some would find it offensive.)

Yes, fat people are discriminated against in our society. Yes, people casually use “fat” as an insult. Yes, many hold very strong anti-fat stereotypes. Yes, until enough people let it be known that expressing such beliefs is unacceptable it will continue. No, it is not comparable to racism, or anti-Semitism, or Islamophobia, or gay bashing, but it is similar in nature and still unacceptable. Roll your eyes at me all you want.

Now I entered the conversation about “fat” in this thread late, stating explicitly that in this context there was an argument to made that it was pertinent to have specified fat since the fat do sweat more, but offering up a reasonable guidance for figuring out if using the word will be felt to be offensive by some rather than descriptive. Only after that, when this doofus didn’t take the chance to just say then (rather than later) that yes, the fat people are more noticably sweating more, end, but instead dug deep by saying that yes he meant it as a casual insult, that it is specifically fat people who are disgusting, that using fat as a casual insult is okay, and that anyone who thinks it isn’t is the easily offended, did I rise to the subject. At that point the guy is not just odd for having an extreme fear of invisible dried sweat and moist handlebars, and clueless for being gruff about it instead of trying to actually ask nicely and let others know that wiping after themselves would be appreciated, he is a full blown ignorant jerk.

A bit ironic actually. Sweat phobic dimbulb here wants everyone in the gym to be sensitive to and cater to his phobia and wipe down the machine (and the friggin handlebars!) whether they have left visible sweat or not, even if most people in the gym really don’t care (80% of the gym patrons don’t wipe after themselves he claimed in the op … I guess most of the gym membership is fat). Yet his having the common courtesy to ask someone to do it nicely, rather than treat offenders “gruffly” is too much for him. He can’t be bothered to wipe himself before he uses equipment if he’s the one concerned about the possibility a spot of moistness, or perhaps all dried, but possibly still there, sweat. (Again, please note, he did not limit his rant to a leaving puddles of sweat, just the awareness that some are not wiping so he can’t trust that there is not dried sweat there, so he is forced to thoroughly wipe down the machines himself.)

Yes Felix Unger could have a hard time at a real gym. If the possibility of contact with a spot of dried sweat or a somewhat moist handlebar is too much for you then you can either not exercise in common area or wipe stuff down yourself before you use it.

Mr. K., by now you should know that rants don’t always go the way the ranter wants. Sometimes the ranter shows themselves to be the idiot or the asshole and become the Pitted rather than the Pitter.

TL;DR.

Go bother an all you can eat somewhere would ya?

I’ve joined a few gyms. Every one of them was happy to take my initiation fee. Not a damn one of them gave me any sort of initiation on what was expected of me, as a customer, other than that I was expected to allow them to take money out of my bank account every month. It wouldn’t occur to me to wipe down equipment after I used it, except that I’d read on this very message board that other people expect one to do so. I was also not given any instruction on how to use any of the machines…when I asked, I was told that the person who gives such instruction was not in right now. I asked several times. That person was never in. And there were not even any signs around the place, to let noobs know about doing stuff like wiping down machines, or re-racking weights. This is stuff that I picked up from the SDMB.

Eventually I bought a home workout machine, which at least came with an instructional DVD.

My point is, if someone is ignorant about a culture, giving a POLITE tip might be more effective than calling someone a fat skank who can’t be bothered to do whatever it is that you consider common courtesy. Now, if the same person persists, despite a couple of polite hints, then it’s time to call him/her names. But don’t assume that s/he knows what to do in a strange situation.

I’d maybe buy that if they’re weren’t signs in front of pretty much every machine asking people to wipe them down - as I mentioned in the OP, along with the f-word. Not to mention the numerous sprays and tissues all over the place. What do they think they’re there for, decoration? If it weren’t a big deal, the management wouldn’t have wasted money laminating signs and ordering new tissues and sprays.

Those do sound like some shitty gyms you went to though.

Oh, and now just to further wind up DSeid, the world’s most self-righteous git, you know what else I hate about all fat people?

(I don’t actually have an answer for that, just wanted to use the f-word one last time)

Oooooh, that’ll learn 'em.
Seriously though, you keep saying this:

and…

You keep saying that you apologize but you keep coming back with this shit:

I thought for a while you were a stupid, dense fucknugget but now I’m starting to come around to the fact that you are just an everyday childish troll. Carry on…

You might want to check the timescale of the comments, dumbass. Rage tends to subside over time. Not that I care; if you want to paint these slobs as some kind of heroic rebels against the Beautiful People go right ahead. I disagree, but go right ahead.

Actually, you know what? Fuck it. Stop being such sensitive pussywipes and grow a backbone. Christ, what are day to day interactions like with you entitled whining morons?

No, you grow a backbone. Either admit you hate fatties or admit you were wrong. The timeline is not about the rage, it’s about your attitude and words. I’ll forgive the rage.

I did fucking admit I was wrong! I’m not even allowed a few tongue in cheek sly pokes - patently not of a nasty nature after I admitted I was wrong (and pointed out that it was all dripping in swe…er, irony)? Maybe I should have used a few winky smileys or something. True egalitarianism means we should be able to rip the piss out of each other as equals. If we can’t stand a bit of ribbing then we’re all fucked, because it’s not the worst thing in life.

Lol. Look at you, demanding an apology on behalf of all obese gym goers of the world! How precious. Get over yourself.

Done. Now go back - re-read - and tell me how the fuck you came up with that, ladyfox[del]fire[/del]fyre.

Mr. Kobayashi,
Let’s just kiss and make up. [Bugs Bunny] Smmaaackk! [/BB]
I’ll take you at your word. I was probably a bit too crabby at times… but c’mon, you were a douche, too, right?
:wink:

Hell, I admitted that a few posts up.

You’re a good man, Charlie Brown.

Ah. Like people who get all hissy because someone left the rowing machine handlebar moist and because he can’t trust that the bench that looks clean and dry might not actually have some dried sweat on it forcing him to give a thorough wiping down himself before using because that do not realize that he is entitled to sweat free surfaces even though 80% of others in that gym do not give a shit (which the whining prig cannot believe!) A moron who feels so entitled to others doing that polite thing for him that he feels being rude to people who don’t know that such would be appreciated is completely his right. Ah, but only goes up and gruffly reprimands the “stupid inconsiderate cow” who, from her “baffled” had no previous idea that anyone would care whether or not she wiped down a lat pull down machine. Yes a slimy little bully of an asswipe who would not dare approach someone less timid that way. And did he approach her because she left a puddle of sweat? Nah. Of course not. It was a lat pull down machine. She probably didn’t have more than her tush touch the seat and her hands on the bar. Yes oh great master of the gym, that was a lat pull down, not a “pull down one for the biceps” … do even have any idea what the different machines are, what they are for, and how you are supposed to use them? Or are you too busy whining about the fact that that people are not behaving in the way that you are entitled for them to behave that you can’t be bothered to learn?

I presume that you also expect that others will sterilize toilet seats for you in public bathrooms as well. Even though you very carefully lay the toilet paper out on the seat any way because some lazy, literally in this case, fat asses may have actually had tush contact with the seat without washing it down afterwards. Think about it, fat sweaty and possibly pimply asses having been in contact with that surface and you knowingly putting your smooth baby bottom against that surface as you yet again try get your head out from where it is stuck. Ugh.

I know, Mr. K., you don’t have the brain power to read that many words.

I’ll keep it simple.

You can’t catch teh fat from sweat. If sitting on a dry bench that may have dried sweat on it freaks you out too much clean it off first but that is your issue. If handling bars that may be moist gets you in a panicked tizzy then get a pair of work out gloves. Or carry some hand sanitizer to use after each machine. The world does not owe you a sterile work out as devoid of possible germs as your brain is of interconnected neurons.

First of all, I never claimed to be some kind of all-knowing gym Adonis so stop putting words into my mouth to prop up your flimsy argument. Also; you’re seriously defending this inconsiderate behaviour?

Number 1, it stinks. I don’t want to go for a work out in a place that reeks of mouldy old sweat. This isn’t hard.

Number 2, it’s basic hygiene. Do you wash your hands after wiping your arse? Oh, what a frightful tizzy you get in about all these germs. Hepatitis can be transmitted through sweat, did you know that you know-nothing know it all? Not to mention, it’s a good way of catching any common bugs that you disgusting pigs leave behind. Bacteria and fungi thrive in moist, warm environments…like the imprints of sweat you leave behind. I don’t want you biological calling card, thanks.

Number 3, it’s basic etiquette. It takes all of 10 seconds and shows that you actually give a damn about other gym goers.

Number 4, it’s the gym’s guidelines - probably because it can gunk up the machines. If you don’t like it, piss off and sweat on your own machines, no problem. But businesses have these guidelines and facilities for a reason.

To be frank, there’s a reason I haven’t switched gyms despite paying about twice as much as the other offerings in my neighborhood.

Towel service

It’s worth the dough because it means that there are hand towels available at all times for people to wipe down their equipment as well as the moistened paper towels too. I usually use two towels, one to wipe down the equipment and one to sit on since I have a pretty sweaty ass. I try and be considerate there and there are posted rules about wiping down one’s equipment as well.

I’ve been through several chains of gyms, L.A. Fitness, Bally’s, Gold’s, the Y, and a couple local ones too. All of em had the OP’s problem more than my gym and none of 'em offered towels. Of course, my gym gives a free training session and occasionally runs a PSA video about gym etiquette. (Of course, a full gym etiquette video would probably take a couple hours).

What sort of self-entitled blame culture do you live in that this would be anyones fault but your own? You need to be told to clean up after yourself and put things away when you are finished? We teach five year olds that, dont we?

I have never been at a gym over here that did not have towel dispensers dotted all around the gym, I find it strange that any gym, anywhere, would not be the same. Its just paper towel after all, hardly the biggest cost in the world.

Just another example of how we are a first class country and you arent. :wink:

Actually, I was talking about real fluffy cotton towels (on top of the standard paper towels).

You are complaining about moist handlebars and unobservable spots on a seat that you are afraid may be there even though you can’t see them. This is gym, not a place to get your pedicure. People sweat in gyms. Gyms are not flowery. If the staff wipes down the equipment once a shift it shouldn’t smell. And I hope they do that.

No, you ignorant doofus. You cannot catch Hepatitis from sweat. And yes I know about this. You are indeed exposed to germs in a gym … and at Starbucks, and touching the bathroom doorhandle, and you really don’t want to know the germs that live on that computer keyboard you are typing on. Much much worse than any gym I assure you. And if you think that wiping the sweat off with a towel is doing anything to reduce that exposure you are just wrong.

Well if 80% of people don’t do it then maybe it is not local culture etiquette. Again, I do it when in a public gym … but if someone doesn’t know to do it, or forgets, would it kill you to be polite and assume that “the cow” just didn’t know that she should do it?

Then the gym can educate people about it. Again, if 80% of people do not do it, then they must not really care either.

I just came from a workout at my gym. Because of the heat index outside, the gym itself felt fairly hot, even though the thermostat read a very comfortable 76F. I sweated more on the elliptical than I can remember.

After 45 minutes on the elliptical, I changed to the weight machines. My opinion? If people aren’t pissing, shitting, bleeding, or vomiting on the equipment, I really don’t care if they wipe them down or not. I’m pretty hit and miss about it most of the time (today I wiped down just about every piece of equipment because I sweated more than usual – but normally, I don’t bother too much).

It certainly doesn’t bother me in the least if people don’t wipe the seats and handlebars. My skin is tough enough to handle a little moisture. And besides, I often use the hand sanitizer provided. But a little sweat? Whoop-de-do.

But I’ll tell you what really does piss me off in the gym: people on cell phones while they’re working out. That, I don’t understand. I’ve even seen someone on a weight machine, doing reps, talking on the phone. Is there any call so important that can’t wait?

Sometimes the cell phone person is talking loudly enough to disturb others, sometimes, like a moron tonight, hung on the machine, not using it, but instead talked on the phone. That pisses me off much more than a tiny little bit of sweat on a vinyl seat.

I started or derailed a Pit thread with this very suggestion a couple of years ago and was harshly criticized. But it makes total sense. Unless it’s really busy you usually don’t see whether the person before you wiped, so if you’re a wiper you have to wipe anyway. Wiping after yourself is therefore usually a waste of time, unless you get your jollies by standing there diligently wiping down the machine while others gaze upon your hygienic superiority.