No one is asking everyone to share the same opinions as them. No one. People disagree here more than they agree. People usually are able to be civil about it, no shitstorm ensues.
Your statement that “people can disagree in a non threatening, nice way” can be taken both ways. If someone asks me my honest opinion on something, I am capable of giving it without being hurtful. I am capable of giving my opinion as a Christian without being hurtful. And so are a lot of other people.
I do not feel attacked here because of my religion. Many do not agree with me, and that is ok. We disagree in a “non threatening” way all the time. I learn about how other see Christianity, and I learn about opposing views. Sometimes I change my position on something as a result, maybe someone else changes theirs. Sometimes we just learn about different viewpoints. That’s why I like it here so much, that it is not just one group of like-minded people going “Me too!”
The diversity and differing opinions is part of the point. I guess I don’t understand why you think people here can’t deal with others not agreeing with them.
Bearing that in mind, why do some people continue to post to topics in which they know their view isn’t exactly welcome? I posit that if there’s a thread titled Help Me Find a Gay-Friendly Christian Church posters that find they phrase ‘Gay-Friendly Christian Church’ to be oxymoronic shouldn’t post to the thread. That goes for the atheists and the fundamentalists!
Most of the people on the board already know how you feel and, quite frankly, we’re getting a little sick of hearing it. Aren’t there other subjects that interest you? Must you only post to religious threads?
His4, twenty-four of you last twenty-five posts were to threads about homosexuals. We get it. No, really we do. You don’t think they’re going to heaven. If you wanted us to know that, mission accomplished, job well done and all that jazz.
Do you have any hobbies? What’s your favorite movie? What’s your favorite TV show? Like to cook? What’s your favorite dish? I trying so hard to believe you can’t possibly be this one-dimensional.
Hobbies: reading, going to movies, walking, riding bike, swimming.
Favorite movie: Hard to say, I like a lot of them. I liked Grease, and the Star Trek next gen movies.
Favorite dish: Hard to say also. One fave is pizza.
Oh, and it doesn’t bother me when others have different opinions than me but I’m not going to resort to name calling because of it. And I even accept that some of you think all your opinions are based on fact with no error and some of our opinions are just based on faith, yada yada. There’s nothing wrong with faith based opinions. If someone came in here that based their faith on the Koran or some other religious volume, instead of the Bible, I wonder if they would be pitted so often. Anyway, you all have a nice day.
Desmostylus this is the exact same issue that was going on for the last 3 pages of the closed thread. That thread was about the reaction to their comments, and so is this one.
I would like to think that the OP’s threadbare cover on this didn’t fool you- it certainly didn’t fool anyone else, as you can see by this thread.
So what’s your issue? Was the snark:
really needed? Did I miss something and you’re on their bandwagon of hate? A little clarification of your position would be nice, if you please.
I think a lot of it would depend on the nature of those opinions (specifically, do they impinge (or try to) on the freedoms of third parties) and how they were presented.
I think that if someone came here and argued (for example) in support of anti-gay laws, basing their assertions on dogma from the Koran (if indeed there is any of such), they would get a rough ride. It isn’t just Christians that get a hard time for making unsupported/unsupportable assertions, it isn’t even just religious people, if you don’t believe me, take a few moments to search on the username Seethruart.
Actually, that happened a couple of years ago. (If someone can find the threads, I’d be grateful. Satan the banned poster had invited a Muslim to bring his views to the board. Then a couple of others showed up, and they managed to spew the Muslim equivalent of H4E’s posts. The fundie Muslims got the same reaction as the fundie Christians get. Intolerance and closemindedness get short shrift here, including closeminded atheism.
Sometimes, people have strongly-held opinions, and it can be difficult for them to disagree. As much as you believe one thing, so can someone else strongly believe the opposite. That should be perfectly fine, but it is quite difficult especially when that matter is something which can be very personal and very central to someone’s life.
In the thread to which you refer, the OP had a legitimate question, and there was legitimate disagreement. The problems seemed to come up when the disagreement turned to personal statements. Disagree all you want, but when disagreement turns personal, IMO it is justified to take it into the Pit.
I don’t think it’s about beliefs – people can and do disagree vehemently about that without problems.
General note: please bear in mind that there are many conservative Christians here. What this group has in common is a commitment to Jesus Christ, based in large part on the Bible. (I hope I’m getting that right, anyway!) Most that are on these boards have scarcely said a thing that could be construed as hateful or spewing.
In some ways, yes, it’s the same issue. The same people are involved, and the same viewpoints are involved. But that doesn’t mean that it’s exactly the same.
That sort of silencing would rule out most of the stuff in GD. “Republican vs Democrat”? We already did that.
His, by now you are aware what this board is like. You continue to complain about it, and state that you feel misunderstood and persecuted. Several times you have said you wanted to leave.
I offer this with all sincerity - if this board is not meeting your needs, why do you continue to go around and around like this?
I really think that you will see what you want to see, and that no one can show you it is possible to have a differing opinion without being attacked. You skip over peoples’ posts that prove otherwise. It is tiring for everyone involved.
If you cannot adjust, the board is not going to adjust for you. Attempts have been made to help you see differently. I think at this point you need to step back and see if this is really something you want to keep going over. What do you hope to achieve?
As a closed-minded atheist I am unsure if I should be offended.
[Storms out huffily, just in case]
On the subject of JD, JC, H4E et al, I read as much of the many interwoven threads as I could stomach, immoderation seemed in plentyful supply on “both” sides.
Unfortunatley, I haven’t figured all that out. Yes, I know what this board is like and I don’t know why I keep coming here. Maybe I’ll figure it out evenually.
You know, it’s not true that it’s because you’re a self-professed Conservative Christian. You’re so not the only one.
For example, we have Lissla Lissar, who also is a conservative Christian. However, I don’t ever ONCE recall her getting pitted. I think Duck Duck Goose also is a conservative Christian. I don’t see her being told she’s “wrong and hateful.”
In fact, I’d be willing to bet that there are quite a few people on this board who agree with you, at least that homosexuality is wrong, or something. But they don’t get pitted, and why is that? Because they aren’t obnoxious about it. They’re kind. They’re considerate of other’s feelings.
You aren’t.
And quite frankly, I’m tired of you coming here, doing the same damn thing, and when it gets the obvious reaction, acting all hurt and astonished and stomping off-only to come back and pull the same thing over and over again.
You must be a glutton for punishment. Well, that’s your thing and quite frankly, if that’s what turns you on-hey, be my guest.
But then don’t turn around and say WE are mean. We’re not. We’re just like you-we have to say the truth. If you don’t like it, that’s your problem.