Discussion of a pro-Obama ad: its tone, content, and implications

Colbert may be funny, but he’s not necessarily an expert on the nuances of campaign finance law.

I seem to remember it happening in 2008, but my google-fu is failing me at finding it.

Cite?

I did no such thing. Are you confusing me with Romney?

I actually said this:

"I’m fine with PACs. I don’t have time to produce a television commercial, so I like being able to pool my money with other people to do it more efficiently.

I’m also fine with this ad airing."

It always amazes me that despite outnumbering the conservatives on this board 20-1 in every single thread people need to resort to such tactics. Just respond to what I actually post.

Bothered? No. I’d say more “amused”.

The only example that I’ve seen of Romney deliberately misquoting is the one where he quoted Obama who was quoting McCain. That was out of line and he should be ashamed of that spot. Ever since then he’s tread more carefully and has been more accurate.

As I hope was clear, I was just joking about there being no point to the discussion. But it in all seriousness, I can’t think of many more unlikely, hypothetical scenarios than that of a candidate asking another group to pull an ad, especially if it’s negative, since those work so well. I see that Debaser now, as well as lance strongarm, have searched and turned up nothing.

Regarding McCain denouncing ads: He was opposed to using Wrights sermons in 2008, and his campaign didn’t use them. When the RNC did use them he condemned it. But later when outside groups used Wright in ads he let it slide.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2008/10/17/do-the-wright-thing.html

It would have been interesting to see what would have happened if he tried to stop them.

McCain ran with a woman who would claim that Obama was pals with terrorists. I don’t think there’s any high ground to look for from that campaign.

He won a Peabody for his work educating the public about post-Citizens United campaign finance. Sure, he help from Trevor Potter, but really, campaign finance is now very simple: with the right paperwork you can raise and spend all you want, with no oversight.

That’s it, you’re going to a death panel.

The Peabody Awards are great at judging electronic media, but they are not exactly experts in the nuances of campaign finance law.

You are a good poster on the internet, but you’re not exactly an expert in the nuances of campaign finance law.

But ads, especially negative ads, can backfire. In that case, it would be easy to see a candidate disavowing them - especially if the disavowal earned more points for him than the ad itself did. (In fact, he may benefit from both).

On further thought, if a particularly reprehensible ad were aired by a Super PAC, for example, and it backfired, I wouldn’t be too surprised to see a campaign ask that it be taken down. I would be surprised to see them ask it be taken down before the backfiring though, even if it was pretty far over the line.

The New York Times reports that the ad in question hasn’t been broadcast once as a paid ad. Every one who has seen it has seen it via Youtube or because the media has been playing it over and over again in relation to the “outrage” stories.

I’m sorry, I guess I’m confusing you with someone who seems to think the two examples are even remotely related.

The GOP’s throwing arm and briar patch detection radar are working exactly as expected.

Is that a woosh? Candidates have condemned ads before.

Hmmm. Gamerunknown, what do you think of that? You want to ban political ads but protect freedom of the press, after all.

No problem with it. News sources and other venues where people actually have to seek content are fair play.