Discussion of the novel, Master and Commander

I think slush specifically refers to the fat that floats to the top in cooking. Grease can be anything from drippings to industrial lubricant.

Y’all hurry up and get to Treason’s Harbor. I want to talk about it. :slight_smile:

I am a urinator.

Is that the next one, after Fortune? I ordered four more today and that’s one of 'em. Fortune ended so abruptly!

What do you think about Diana Villiers? I was half hoping she’d die, but after I thought about it, I think the reason I don’t like her is because I’m seeing her only through Stephen’s eyes. O’Brian gives us a little bit about what Sophie’s thinking, but never anything from Diana’s point of view.

I know he’d never open up (unless he was high), but I’d love to read a thread from Stephen, asking for advice on their relationship. “There’s this woman, she’s everything I want, but she keeps running away from me. I’ve been a perfect gentleman. I haven’t pressed her for a commitment but she knows I’m there for her. What else can I do? Should I pursue her or wait for her to come to me? She’s got some history and her last boyfriend was a bit of a stinker. What should I do?”

Fortune of War ended with?

Taking the Turkish ship that fired marble cannon balls, Barret points out that it is sinking and Jack should return to Surprise?

Males, particularly males like Maturin and myself, who are not attractive to women pursue a love of our life for years. We are rarely successful, but we are persistent. I identify with Stephen, being a small unattractive male person. But i digress. :slight_smile:

Will I draw you my little cock?

Seeing her through Stephen’s eyes probably paints her in the best light possible, he dotes on the woman and no matter what she does he finds a way to justify it. I still spent most of the time hoping she’d die or disappear.

I understand why she’s like she is. In modern times she’d have been a race car driver or stunt pilot or something equally daring and exciting and she’d have been able to make her own way. Back then she wasn’t able to live her life how she chose without a man to finance her way and she hated that. She has every right to be frustrated and angry about it. But it doesn’t excuse the way she treats Stephen, who happens to be the only man that ever treated her right. Bitch. :mad:

Humpf yourself.If “Kiss me, Hardy,” is the mark of a winner, give me the loser.

She is a modern woman trapped int e nineteenth century.
Ther are spoilers to be had with Stephen and Dianna…

No, it ended when Jack, Stephen, and Diana escaped Boston and were on Captain Broke’s ship (the Shannon), which challenged the American Chesapeake to fight, and won. There’s a rip-roaring battle that ends with Jack and Captain Broke thanking each other. The end.

The books and battles are starting to run together. I’m not remembering the one in your spoiler, so maybe I haven’t read that one yet.

True. But she’d probably treat him worse if she knew him as well as we do. I adore the guy, but where Diana’s concerned, he’s flaky, maybe even a bit neurotic. On the other hand, he’s adjusting remarkably well to life at sea.

Wow, you’re really flying through these books, AuntiePam! The next one is The Surgeon’s Mate, which has a lot of Stephen and Diana in it.

I can’t seem to find it, but we had a whole thread about Diana sometime last year, I think. I’m firmly in the “she’s a bitch” camp, myself. Just when you think she’s redeemed herself, she stabs him in the heart again. It’s hard to talk about her without mentioning spoilers. But there is a lot more of the Stephen-and-Diana saga to come.

Diana has had a rough time of it.

Diana is attracted to powerful men, the sort with enough disposable income to keep up with her champagne tastes, and with enough social clout to keep a notorious fallen woman and still command respect in high circles. On either account, Stephen is deemed insufficient. What Diana continually learns – to her sorrow – is that the men who DO meet her exacting standards also tend to be very possessive of her, and to have a jealous streak a mile wide. It takes many years of persistence, heartbreak, and – let’s face it – stalking for Stephen to overcome Diana’s inclinations.

I don’t think it is stalking so much as looking out for her welfare, but as Stephen would say, “Sure, you have a point.”

Oops, I’m two books ahead.