They’ve already implied that Hamas = all Gazans.
It is a terrorist organization that is using terror to try and achieve political goals. It has been allowed to grow because Palestinians do not have access to constructive means to change their situation. Hamas and the most recent attacks were inevitable given Netanyahu’s blocking of a two state solution. The attacks in October were horrific, as is the ethnic cleansing now taking place in Gaza.
Hamas had better surrender fast, then.
…I think that killing children is wrong not because it looks gross, but because I think killing children is wrong. We should do everything we can to protect children in conflict.
I can’t imagine any circumstances where killing children is right. So I’ll continue to advocate for the stopping of killing of children. I’ll continue to highlight the disproportionate toll this war has taken on children.
Hamas should surrender.
And Israel needs to re-evaluate how it is conducting this war so that innocent civilians don’t bear the brunt of the IDF’s brutal campaign.
Textbook extrapolation fallacy. You are basing the idea that the war would continue at the current rate for the next since months on what, exactly?
As has been noted a number of times alread, this war has gone through a number of phases, starting with an air campaign, then a series of ground operations at different scales. As more of Gaza comes under IDF control, the strategies in use by the IDF have continued to shift.
I agree completely.
I agree completely.
If you have any suggestions on how Israel can bring about a Hamas surrender while killing less children (or killing less Palestinians in general; civilian deaths are tragic regardless of their age) then I’d love to hear it; but your suggestion needs to take into account the realiry of the way Hamas conducts war.
Can you really not imagine circumstances where it is the least wrong option?
We’d probably give different answers to the trolley problem, wouldn’t we…
…I’m guessing.
This is a thread on a messageboard, not a scholarly article. I’m allowed to guess.
The first phase involved moving 1.9 million people out of their homes. It involved driving people out of Northern Gaza towards the south, and now half of all of those displaced are now in Rafah.
The first phase involved taking at least 20 hospitals out of action. There is no healthcare system in the north. The south is barely hanging on.
The first phase involved over 80 days of siege. Is Israel planning on keeping this up for at least another month? Because if we do, then Gaza will experience famine.
The next phase involves ramping up hostilities in central Gaza. As bad as its been…its about to get worse. Evacuation orders have already been given, driving them to places that immediately become targets for bombing.
So the third phase of this war will involve…ramping up hostilities in the south. And when that happens, where do the people go then?
We all know we’ve only seen the first phase of this war. There are at the very least two more phases to go.
This is what Gaza looks like as it comes under IDF control.
This is what’s coming to central Gaza, then the south. Thousands of people still trapped under the rubble. Hundreds more have been detained by IDF soldiers, many literally disappeared, families don’t know where they are being held.
Stop using the Gospel. Stop targeting hospitals. Stop targeting UN shelters. Stop indiscriminately bombing apartment blocks. Stop targeting churches and Mosques. End the siege.
And start targeting Hamas.
That’s a garbage argument. Pro lifers are saying, “fetuses look like children, therefore it’s wrong to kill them”. Palestinian children don’t just look like children, they actually ARE children, human beings who love and fear. And it actually IS wrong to bomb them. It may be less wrong than the alternative, but it’s a bad thing to do.
You are an IDF soldier on patrol in Gaza. A man emerges from a house, shouts “Allahu akbar!” and raises an AK-47 at you. You shoot first. Your round hits them in the chest and death is instantaneous.
Unfortunately and unbeknownst to you, that jihadist was 17 years and 364 days old. By the standard applied by the UN, you have killed a child!
Are you, in fact, an evil person who has committed an inexcusable act?
…is this child yelling “Allahu akbar!” relevant to the story, or are you just adding a bit of flavour to this rather distasteful metaphor?
It establishes motive. Ignore that part if you wish. Are you or are you not an unforgivable child-killer in this scenario?
…“Allah is greater” establishes motive?
The IDF soldier is a soldier, right? They’ve just finished invading the country, destroying the neighbourhood, blown up the Mosque, murdered this child’s parents, and you think that there is a clearly distinguishable good-guy-bad-guy here?
If you don’t want to address the implications of answering the question, just say so.
Let’s say it’s you walking down the sidewalk in Your Town and an individual who unbeknownst to you is 17 years and 364 days old steps out of an alleyway, screams “I am going to kill you, @Banquet_Bear, for no reason!” and then pulls his handgun.
Are you an evil person if you shoot and kill them?
Stage 1: Deflect criticism of Netanyahu
Stage 2: Keep Netanyahu in power
That part might hit a snag when the next election comes along.
…the way you’ve framed the question has made several uncomfortable assumptions, that as I’ve said, are rather distasteful. As you seem to want to continue to escalate the hypothetical, I’ll no longer engage you on this, because it’s off topic.
AI usage during wars is here to stay; you will see it deployed on a far more massive scale the next time a Great Power goes to war.
Regardless, either a target is valid, or it isn’t. If it’s valid, I really couldn’t care less if it came from AI or not.
So, allow Hamas to operate with impunity out of these locations. Great plan, one question, how does that make Hamas surrender?
Great idea, Iran has plenty of “humanitarian aid” that will really make Hamas want ro surrender!
Now I really know that you haven’t read a single one of my posts.
It’s off-topic whether the death of children is ever acceptable? I choose to interpret that as you conceding that it sometimes is, then.
I have read all of your posts and my statement agrees with some. Your early posts were concise and informative. Recently less so.