How did “Adolf Hitler”, the “Genocide Expert” from “Gaza City, Palestinian Territories” vote, I wonder?
How did Avi Bitterman, the random asshole on Twitter, vote? Yep, he’s an official IAGS approved genocide expert too:
That’s right - the only qualification for being an IAGS member is having shelled out $30 and filling out the form declaring yourself a “genocide expert”.
How on Earth did so many “reputable” news organizations not bother to check this before publishing headlines like the one shared by Andy? Very very strange.
…how much research did you do into the New Zealaind Israeli Institute before you decided to post this? Or the author or the article, Greg Bouwer? Because I’m familiar with both.
If you want to join the institute you can, here. You don’t even need to donate.
And Bouwer is the type of person who mistakes editorial photos for headlines, from this media council complaint:
One of the directors of the Institute openly posts in support of transphobes, as do other signifcant contributors, notably Juliet Moses. They aren’t an organisation that stands firm for human rights.
And something that Bouwer omitted from his article was this:
“Adolf Hitler” wasn’t a member before the scholars backed the resolution. It was a deliberate stunt designed to bring into question the legitimacy of the organisation and they joined AFTER the scholars backed the resolution. Bouwer chose to not include this information in the article you cited.
But since we are talking about the G word, lets talk about who has argued that yes, by the legal definition of the word, what is happening in Gaza is g…
Lets start with the definiton.
G… is defined in the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of G… , ratified in 1948 and came into force in 1951.
Things to note about the convention: it doesn’t require a set body count. It doesn’t require “killing everyone.” The Srebrenica massacre was upheld by the International Court of Justice as g… , even though the number of people who were killed totaled an estimated 8000 men and boys.
From Amnesty International.
The report:
Human Rights Watch focuses on one aspect of this: water.
From historian Amos Goldberg, the Jonah M. Machover Chair in Holocaust Studies at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem.
The most comprehensive case for g… comes from the South African submission to the International Court of Justice that addresses each element of the Convention and makes legal arguments that support the contention that Israel is indeed, committing g… in Gaza.
The hardest part normally is proving intent. But in this particular case: this isn’t proving difficult at all. In the South African submission expressions of g…l intent is covered from pages 59. This submission was made in January 2024. Since then: there have been multiple additional statements.
The ICJ ordered provisional measures that Israel had to take: from Ammnesty:
Israel ignored the court.
In February this year, the South African delegation submitted a “public dossier of openly available evidence on the State of Israel’s acts of g… against the Palestinians in Gaza, as of 4 February 2025" to the ICJ.
A few months ago: Israel broke the ceasefire and launched another massive wave of bombings and attacks.
From Ammnesty:
And thats where we are now. Israel are now attacking and flattening Gaza City. It isn’t going to stop there. You can ignore those particular scholars if you want. There are plenty of other scholars and humanitarian agencies and experts who will argue the very same thing. There is a very clear consensus.
The reason why one side has to resort to “cheap stunts” is because thats all they have.
Absolutely nothing; I saw that the IAGS organization was complete horseshit elsewhere and linked the first article that came up on Google related to the topic.
At least unlike Al Jazeera reporters, he’s not a Hamas fighter, eh?
I’m sure that all the “scholars” who signed on to the declaration are of equal caliber. With rigorous quality controls like the IAGS employs, how could that be in doubt?
Right, that’s why Iran paid off the South African ruling party’s election debt in exchange for them publishing a laughable report where they quote sentence fragments from politicians and whole sentences from soccer players. That’s precisely right: a cheap stunt.
…IAGS are not “complete horseshit”. This cheap stunt was nothing but a cheap stunt.
No: none of the Al Jazeera reporters were active Hamas fighters when they were assassinated by the IDF. Those were IDF warcrimes. The IDF killed yet another journalist a few days ago. Rasmi Jihad Salem. And before that they killed Islam Abed along with her husband and children.
The IDF should stop targeting and murdering journalists. And they should also stop murdering journalists families.
Thats the thing. This is something that is verifiable, easily tested, and worthy of reporting. You can look up the people who signed the resolution. Bouwer could have done that. Instead? Cheap stunt.
Woah. We are gonna need a cite for this one. In particular, for the “in exchange for them” part.
I’ve linked to both the report and the follow-up dossier of evidence presented to the ICJ. Everyone can check it out for yourselves. It includes much more than " sentence fragments from politicians and whole sentences from soccer players." This was a case taken to the International Court of Justice. They don’t entertain “cheap stunts.” The case was strong enough that the ICJ ordered interim measures on Israel in order to prevent g… You can’t compare this to a handful of internet trolls filling out a form with the name “Adolf Hitler.” This wasn’t “laughable.” It was deadly serious, describing a deadly strategy, and his was all very obvious back in January 2024 when it was submitted to the court.
Reduced to repeating last year’s ISGAP-originated conspiracy theories, Babale? Why should we believe anything the Israeli Government’s paid-for “think-tank” puts out? This hasbara is so obvious it’s ridiculous.
Sorry if this is old news but ap is reporting that the infamous camera that Isreal bombed a hospital over was used by a reuters journalist, and that (well this part is definitely old news) the bombing was way more destructive than would be necessary to take out a camera.
It’s not just Gaza - the Israeli government isn’t properly feeding Palestinian prisoners entirely under their control. And this is according to an Israeli court!
This Israeli government is monstrous and every bit as evil as Hamas.
It would be a massive scandal, and the talk of the media for months. Instead all I find is a local investigative journalism online newspaper stating that such rumours exist, but not coming to a conclusion either way.
And at the same time as the intentional mass starvation in Gaza and Israeli prisons, settlers in the WB continue to brutalize civilians, including children and the elderly, with no consequences:
Meanwhile, I’m very excited to see how all the people who demanded to know why Israel isn’t just striking Hamas leadership in Doha pull off a total 180 and declare that Israel is evil for attacking Hamas targets in Qatar.
Pointing out that Israel is bombing the wrong Arabs Is not an invitation to bomb Qatar.
In any case Qatar is not amused. Especially since the solution to Gaza issues is entirely political not military. What could be gained by eliminating militarists you have already totally defeated? Just more Israeli propaganda.
The ANC being in debt, well… what day is it today? Tuesday? This is normal. They periodically cannot pay their staff…
There has not been any substantive evidence put forward, yet.
Now, I am not a fan of the ANC, but OK. Let’s say they did accept funding in order to approach the UN.
Problems: we have a robust (I love that word when it refers to politicians fighting) system. Any weakness would be explored. Our minority EFF would explode. The 2nd biggest party, the DA, despite being fairly Israel friendly, would be forced to act. The ANC is in a precarious position in many areas, and has been so rocked by scandal after scandal, many of them financial, that if it came out that it has accepted money from Qatar et al, it would be a national embarrassment.
We have a much larger Muslim minority than the Jewish minority, and I see Palestinian flags far, far more than Israeli flags. But there is just not the groundswell for the people to support pro-Israel or pro-Palestine outcomes. We have more than our own share of socio-economic problems without getting too involved.
The UN petition - while I feel is warranted - means nothing, really. Israel already ignores 79 or more UN resolutions, what is one more?
Clearly, the Palestinian leadership doesn’t feel any pressure to make a deal when Gaza is bombed, which is why they’ve rejected deal after deal (after deal after deal after deal). Pressuring them directly sounds like a great idea. And if Hamas would rather keep fighting until their leaders are dead and their new leaders change their minds, that’s fine too.
The suspicious bit isn’t that they were in debt; it’s that a massive amount of debt disappeared magically just days after South Africa filed their frivolous lawsuit.
I feel very bad for the remaining hostages and their families. The Israeli government just demonstrated how low a priority they are by blowing up the negotiators rather than working to get the hostages back.
The Israeli government has been working with those negotiators to get them back for literally years. Hamas has been very clear that they’re not willing to accept any deal that involves the disarming of Hamas, so at this time there is no deal that’s possible. When that’s the situation, you keep fighting until the other side is willing to negotiate. And targeting Hamas leaders might mean they care more about the pressure imposed on them than targeting anyone in Gaza does, since they’ve clearly demonstrated that they don’t give a fuck about anyone in Gaza beyond the brownie points they can score with the West by getting them killed.
And with all due respect, getting the hostages back should be a lower priority than ensuring that Hamas can’t do this again. A huge part of the reason why we are in this mess is that in the past we priorized getting prisoners back above even the most basic common sense, releasing over a thousand terrorists including Sinwar himself in exchange for Gilad Shalit. Securing the release of prisoners is not worth creating the situation that causes hundreds to be killed and kidnapped in the future. I said this in 2023 and it’s still true today.
Wow, what a claim! I’m sure you have any sort of evidence whatsoever for the claim that “Israel’s stated reason for killing civilians in Gaza is to exert political pressure on Hamas”? I mean, you said that it’s Israel’s stated reason, so it should be trivially easy to provide that this statement actually exists, right?
