Discworld: Monstrous Regiment

I recently finished reading Terry Pratchett’s most recent Discworld novel, Monstrous Regiment, and was a bit surprised when a board search didn’t turn up any threads about it. I know there are a bunch of Discworld fans here, so I thought I’d get the discussion going. I’ll avoid explicit spoilers for now, although there will be some unboxed reference to general plot elements.

To begin, here’s a basic summary of the story:

As the book opens our heroine, Polly, is preparing to run off and join the army. This involves disguising herself as a boy. Her homeland, Borogravia, is in the midst of yet another lengthy war with a neighboring state, and things aren’t going well. But Polly doesn’t really care about politics or the state religion of Nugganism, she’s interested in finding her brother. He went off to serve some time back and never returned. Polly is accepted into the military and makes her way across hostile terrain with a sort of Discworld equivelant of the Band of Brothers. Their youthful spunk catches the attention of Ankh-Morpork journalist William deWorde, who (along with Otto the vampire photographer) helps make them media heroes. Polly and friends also manage to impress Sam Vimes, one of the A-M representatives in the multi-national Alliance against Borogravia. In the end they all play an important role in changing the course of the war and the path of the nation.

Now for the analysis!

Looking at the Discworld series as a whole, Monstrous Regiment seems most similar in tone to the also-recent Night Watch. It’s darker and more serious than most of the other books. There are still funny parts, especially those involving Lt. Blouse, but I wouldn’t consider it a humorous novel. The fantastic Discworld setting is very much in the background. (I don’t think the Great A’Tuin was mentioned at all!) I don’t believe there is any magic, although there is a religious miracle. The only real fantasy elements are several supernatural or non-human supporting characters: a couple of vampires, a werewolf, a troll, an Igor, and a few zombies. Like Night Watch, it’s easy to imagine this book’s setting being shifted to historic or contemporary Planet Earth with only minor rewrites.

The depiction of a society stagnating under an oppressive and corrupt religion/theocracy was reminiscent of Small Gods, but Nugganism doesn’t play the same prominent role in Monstrous Regiment that Omnianism did in that novel. Actually, I felt that Nugganism was rather underexplored, given how important it was to the story. Although Monstrous Regiment most closely resembles two Discworld novels I rank among the best of the series, for some reason it doesn’t seem as good as them. It was still a good book and I enjoyed reading it, but it wasn’t all that I expected or that I think it could have been. I hate to criticize it too much since I didn’t think it was bad, but given all I’ve come to expect from Pratchett/Discworld I can’t seem to keep myself from going over the flaws.

First, there seemed to be too many characters without enough development. The Regiment of the title consists of the heroine plus seven other young recruits, and it was well into the book before I could keep them straight. Even after finishing it I didn’t feel that I “knew” them the way I did other Discworld characters. Several seemed to possess only the traits directly needed to further the plot. Some disappeared for long stretches for little reason.

The twists that came near the end failed to be surprising. Some were repetitive to the point of being silly, but not silly enough to be funny. Worse than that, I felt the book had been building up to something far more shocking about one of the major characters, so the final pay-off was a bit of a letdown. Another late-in-the-game revelation was so predictable that even the other characters barely paid attention. The only surprise was that the character in question had waited so long to reveal a “secret” that by that point was obviously something everyone else would have been completely accepting of. No explanation was given for this strange behavior.

Finally, although the story takes place against the backdrop of a war and our heroes are supposedly in constant danger, their situation didn’t come across as all that menacing to me. I don’t think I’ve ever before come away from a book thinking that it would have been improved by killing off one of the major characters, at least not unless I had a particular annoying major character in mind. In MR there isn’t anyone among the major characters that I’d single out as deserving to die, but if one of them had I think it would have done a lot to bring home the horrors of war. Given that Pratchett has never shied away from killing characters, I’m not sure why he didn’t do this in a book about soldiers fighting in a bloody war. IIRC the only deaths depicted are nameless soldiers and guards, mostly from the opposing side, and there wasn’t even much of that. We’re told that huge numbers of people have died in this war, but we never really “see” it. However, I think Pratchett does do a good job of addressing (and not without humor) the issue of permanently disabled veterans, something not dwelt upon by many war stories.

However, to close on a positive note, I have to really give Pratchett credit for avoiding an easy happy ending. As is usual for the Discworld books the ending is fairly happy, but not improbably so. Borogravia doesn’t change overnight, and there’s still a lot of work to be done. Many of the characters settle into a comfortable, ordinary life, but Polly and one friend strike out into the world once again. They realize that their bed of laurels is a comfortable cage, and are determined to do their best to further practical good in their still-unstable country.

We encounter the god Nuggan in The Last Hero, Pratchett’s excellent illustrated Discworld story, part of which directly involves the gods of the Discworld.

Blind Io, chief of the pantheon, meets Nuggan for the first time in this book, and concludes that Nuggan is an officious little jerk, partly by virtue of his snitty attitude, and partly by virtue of his unsuccessful cheesy little pencil-line moustache.

Oh, let me guess:

It was the sergeant, right? I was so sure “he” was going to turn out to be the queen who was supposed to have been living in isolation for all those years.

Incidentally, it’s not quite the most recent Discworld novel, if you count the juveniles he’s been writing lately. Although they never mention the word “Discworld” Wee Free Men and Hatful of Sky are both unambiguously set there (Granny Weatherwax has cameos in both). They’re children’s books, though, and as such are much darker and scarier than the normal Discworld novels.

Nope. That’s not it, although it was a very good guess, and whould have made a different book out of it. :smiley:

I kinda like the darker tone of the recent books. Nightwatch has become one of my Top 5 Diskworld books, and I am really looking forward to Going Postal.

My faves:

  1. Soul Music
  2. Hogfather
  3. Nightwatch
  4. Maskerade
  5. Lords and Ladies

Does the Patrician make an appearance in this one? It’s been fascinating to see how that character has grown and changed over time, especially in the last few books, like Night Watch. He’s come a long way from the Patrician of the earliest novels.

The Patrician barely appears in this one.

Most of the novel revolves around Polly and her little mob of Borogravian recruits, led by the sergeant’s Sergeant, Sgt. Jackrum, and the well-meaning but hopelessly incompetent Lt. Blouse.

Borogravia is a country that’s kind of gone insane. They’re devout Nugganites, but Nuggan has, well, gotten a bit weird; the Book Of Nuggan sprouts new abominations every week, many of which make NO sense, and some of which are directly counter to survival. Most Borogravians pay lip service to Nuggan… but a sort of cult has sprung up around the Duchess of Borogravia, a figure no one’s seen in decades, and who is probably dead. Most Borogravians pray to the Duchess, as a sort of intermediary to the crazed Nuggan.

Due to changing geography, among other things, Borogravia has declared war on all of its neighbors periodically, and is in the process of getting hammered by a multinational coalition that has invaded. Unfortunately, Borogravians don’t really know how to lose; they continue to fight on, despite being slaughtered in numbers that appalls even their invaders.

Into this, we inject Sam Vimes, sent by the Patrician to pull some sort of solution together; Ankh-Morpork is part of the alliance, because Borogravia keeps being annoying and interfering with trade routes and burning down the Clacks Towers (sending messages through the sky, except prayers to Nuggan, is an Abomination Unto Nuggan).

Vimes is as tough and sympathetic as ever; he certainly doesn’t wanna butcher the Borogravians, but he’s charged with somehow making the whole thing work.

…and Vimes is strictly a sideline character. We get back to him and his crew (Angua, Reg Shoe, and Buggy Swires) only every few chapters; it’s not really a Watch book. Most of the action revolves around Polly and her motley crew… and, as usual, it’s funny as hell while actually making some points (and skewering every old foreign legion movie ever made). I liked it just fine.

I know we had at least one thread about this. Can’t imagine why it’s not showing up.

It’s fun, be-cause I just re-read it and was thinking about looking up the old thread when it just came out. I liked it a lot better on the 2nd reading. The whole deal about Jackrum made it funnier, e.g. “By God, I’m not a lying man.” Also, having read it before, it was easier to keep the recruits apart.

I’ve read an interview somewhere that Pratchett feel he has some problems with DW as a setting. He said he thinks the place is getting overcrowded, and that he wants to add new perspective to recurring characters, hence The Truth and MR. I also get the feeling that he’s feeling constricted by the DW and that’s the reason he has skipped most of the DW pretext. He likes Ankh-Morpork, but it’s been a long while since he tried (and usually failed) to make sense of the particular geography and physics of the place. Remember the first books where he was trying to inject logic into seasons? Not so anymore.
Another thing is that he seems to be getting more and more political, without taking sides in party politics. I can read MR as a commentary to the mess in former Yugoslavia, or - stretching it a little - how mixing official religion and politics makes for a fine mess, especially in smallish rogue states. But most of all, his humanitarian sides are showing more clearly for every book. His way of writing has improved a lot, I think, since about The Fifth Elephant. It’s almost litchatoor.

I think it’s yet another fine example of him creating good strong female characters, not to mention addressing the whole gender issue, by not making gender an issue at all. I can’t think of any male writer who consistently writes good female characters, but then again I’m male, so maybe my perception is wacky. What do fem Pratchett fans think?

MR was slightly spoiled for me by the fact that I recognised the quote that the title is taken from, and it gave away the main twist of the book.

Massive multi-person reply ahead!

Yeah, that’s the one that turned out to be far less shocking than I expected.

All that business about the mystery of Jackrum’s true age and the alterations to “his” record made me suspect a much bigger coverup.

The one that just plain didn’t make sense to me was

Maladict “coming out” as Maladicta at the 11th hour. By that point she had long since known that all the other girls were, well, girls, and that they knew about each other too. Several characters had also said that they “weren’t sure” about Maladict’s true sex. So why keep it a secret from them? I think it actually would have been funnier if Maladict had really been a guy after all and had to “come out” as not being a girl in disguise as everyone suspected!

I also felt it was a commentary on the situation in the Balkan states…and it may be my lack of much knowledge on that subject kept me from enjoying the book as much as I could have.

He’s been praised for the same thing by women as well. In fact, I know at least one woman reader who was surprised to see Pratchett’s dust-jacket photo and discover that he wasn’t a woman named Terry! She just naturally assumed that the creator of these great female characters must be female. Although to tell the truth, there aren’t a lot of female authors who do as good a job of writing about strong women as Pratchett does.

What was the quote? That was one that went over my head.

Scottish theologian John Knox wrote a book in 1558 titled The First Blast of the Trumpet Against the Monstrous Regiment of Women

MR wasn’t tied up as tightly as the normal Discworld book. In the beginning what Polly was doing seemed to be truly dangerous. By the end, where was this evil religion? Terry had to sweep it under the carpet in order for us to identify with the band of soldiers fighting for their country (good) but also for a theocracy which kills people.

This was one of my least favorite Discworld books. Wee Free Men, on the other hand, was fantastic.