Divorce.

I lived with my husband from September 200 to June 2004, but we married in July 2003. Officially we didnt make it to the two year mark. I heard a stat very shortly after we split (sorry no cite) that 50% of marriages end in divorce and 50% of the ones that end in divorce last less than two years.

My husband was a cool, hippy, contraire, person with artistic pretentions. He used his “artistic nature” as an excuse to avoid getting a real job, keeping any kind of job, and for drinking and lying about drinking. (Note, I have nothing against artistic types, but when you have only been to one audition in four years, havent worked on your script in three years, and all you do is occasionally buy notebooks to write drunken crappy stream of consiousness stuff that sounds like word association games gone horribly wrong, I no longer can believe you are an artist who works in a gas station but more likely a gas station attendant who is having trouble dealing with reality) Eventually he would screw up at the job he had, and quit “on principle” before he got fired.

This isnt why I asked him to leave.

He funded his drunks from money he “borrowed” out of his father’s bank account…his father who was in a nursing home, and who’s co-payment was oh, about 75 dollars a month less than his pension cheque. Also with my money, his money from his job, money from selling the furniture (including a teak bedroom set) at shady second hand stores. He got 75 dollars for the teak set, because he was told that it was veneer. ( I think the shelves were veneer, the rest was solid)

This also isn’t why I asked him to leave.

Not the quitting a job when I was 6 months pregant, not us having to move across the country by Greyhound a month later, not his telling my dad off the second day we were staying with my parents… none of that caused me to ask him to leave.

The day he wouldnt go out to the car to get my infant son’s nasal aspirator because “he didnt like my tone and he wasnt stupid he didn’t need to be told twice” and ended up freaking out, leaving the house, missing the birthday dinner I had for his mother (who had flown in from Vancouver to see us and baby) I thought… this really isn’t working…

The month of May after taking his “vacation” (he worked two jobs, one four hours twice a week at a movie theatre, and one graveyard shifts at gas station friday saturday sunday) back to BC and buying and smoking most of a half an ounce of the plant that makes BC famous…I thought… gee it was so nice when he was gone. I had to borrow rent money from my mother that month.
A week or so later, I was sent to the store with $7.00 to buy rice and vegetables… so we can have stir fry. I took my Shoppers DrugMart card, used the 75 dollars of free merchandise I had accumulated and bought food, diapers, formula, etc.

I used cash to buy the vegetables. I came home to find 12 beers, and a bottle of Hungarian wine in the fridge, with a couple of individual bottles of imported beers already sitting in the living room.

Nice. Two days later I asked him to move out. He refused, the fight turned physical… police involved… I went to my parents …Childrens Aid involved, and for days I still thought that I might go back. An incident where “penis ensued” (he pulled down his pants and waved his member at my parents house while yelling obsenities… )I started thinking my parents would be disappointed if I went back. I was on auto pilot for a while, but finally I realized that going back to him would be disappointing for me and my son.

Several of my mom’s sisters have been divorced, but I never thought it would happen to me. I tried individual counselling, but he would never go to couples therapy…

i didnt mean this to be so long. I didnt get married for the wedding, it was short and sweet and on the cheap. I didnt get divorced for any one particular reason, but because suddenly the reasons to leave where overwhelming. I shudder when I hear about two month marriages, but only two people know what really goes on in a marriage, and I am not about to point fingers at anyone

But yeah, as an outsider I would wonder WTF?. I offered to repay my mother in law back for half the money she gave us for our wedding, she refused, but asked that I pay that money into a bank account for my son someday. I can do that, and am grateful she is so understanding and generous.

On preview: My parents are almost polar opposites in terms of personality traits, (dad’s a joiner, into clubs, committees, uptight, and an only child, mom’s a free thinker, hates groups, more mellow, oldest of ten kids) education, (barely highschool vs university) backgrounds, (dad comes from middle class with a bit of money, moms family had it a lot tougher) but they grew up in the same town, went to the same highschool (never really met until years later) and share the same moral values. 40 years this september, and the clock keeps ticking.

A few of my friends have been through divorces, some less nice than the others. Invariably the amicable ones were amicable because the guys walked away from a lot of money. “Keep the house, keep the furniture, keep it all, I’m outa here.” Their divorces took very little time and toll. Within a few months both sides were back ontrack.

But the others all came down to finances, and thats when things got messy. After the love is gone, then it is money money money that gets discussed, er, argued, about.

So, IME, once started, a divorce is only about money. Even when kids are involved, it’s all about the money. I’ve heard of people not being able to see their kids, but only as hearsay, never experienced it.

Also, I don’t know of any divorces where one side wished it never happened. At some level everyone was relieved that it was over.

-Tcat

For all you people out there saying how pathetic it is to get divorced after two months, I have a scenario for you.

Say you’d been living with a woman for 6 years, then got married. Before the honeymoon was over she started acting oddly. A couple of weeks after returning home it was clear she was having an affair, and just a couple of months later it was clear that this affair was with a female work colleague of hers.

Add to that the fact that a large amount of money had gone missing, do you think that’s grounds for divorce - even after a paltry two months!

I only ask, having been in exactly that position myself…

I find it unbelievable, in the truest sense of the word, that there wasn’t some indication of those future problems BEFORE wedding.

Well that’s your prerogative. Unfortunately, people can be very good at deception - and when you are in love, you tend to trust the person you are with. Add to that that there may be an ulterior motive in one party getting a married name, and that deception can easily be pushed over to the point of the wedding and then dropped easily afterwards. I’m not saying I could do that, but I’m living proof that some people are capable!

Ditto. And I’m just now getting used to the Kid Stage (not having any myself)! So far I only have one friend who’s getting divorced, but as a result of it I am sort of bracing myself for it to become more common among people I know. :frowning:

I read in a Miss Manners or somesuch that if you split up in the first year of marriage, the correct thing to do is give the gifts back. I seriously doubt anyone does. Most gifts are cash these days…it was probably all blown on a beach in Cozumel or something.

First off, I’m really sorry for all of you who’ve had to go through (or know friends/family members who have gone through) such painful times. You all have my sympathies.

However, the ironical part of me reads these stories and is saying, “At least there’s people who are fighting so hard to save the institution of marriage! At least all these people were married to someone of the opposite sex!”

Sorry, hijack ending now. I’m lucky - I married my best friend, a guy I’ve known for 13 years and have been married to for 5. I won’t say we’ll never divorce, but he’s absolutely a good match for me. And I love him to dickens. And I also know how incredibly lucky I am.

May everyone find such luck and happiness.

I’m sorry you lost me on this post.
Are you saying you think people posting here are against same sex marriage?
Could you please clarify? If I read that correctly, I don’t see it from the posts.

Jim

What jrfranchi said.

Uh, just because I prefer men to women, Im suddenly a crusader for the Institution of (Heterosexual) Marriage?

If those are my options I’d take Homer Simpson’s advice to Lisa: “Im not a Lesbian, but I can learn.”

Not to start a fight here, but how dare you assume all straight married people are against same sex marriage?

And I don’t see how a two-month marriage between a man and a woman is a morally superior relationship to a gay couple whose been together 26 years.

I’d have some choice words for you and your agenda if this was the Pit.

I read it ironically, as if to say: hmmm, all those people who are against gay marriage because they say it will destroy the fabric of heterosexual marriage ought to consider all these stories that are of heterosexual marriages breaking up. In other words, not an anti-gay marriage thing, but an anti-anti-gay marriage thing, if you get my drift.

Martiju, you’re right: it’s easy to judge someone but it’s difficult to say what we’d do in the same situation. My BIL, who was married and divorced before marrying my sister, has hellish ex-wife stories to tell. After each one, I’d say, “But why did you stay?!?!?” He had his reasons, and it’s not my place to say they’re wrong. It’s just part of his personality; he fought tooth and nail to save the marriage and when that wasn’t possible, walked away. Thank goodness, because he makes my sister very happy.

I believe that’s precisely the point Snickers was making.

That makes sense now and I am glad I was careful to ask politely. Better to clarify than pounce.

Jim

Okay if I was whooshed I apologize. If not, well I won’t hijack this thread with my opinions. And Cajunman what did you edit? I still see the bad coding???

Hit F5 refresh, I asked him to fix the Quote code.

It’s sad. I had friends who married and divorced within about a month or two. But, in this case, they clearly had problems even before the wedding and probably should not have gotten married.

Zev Steinhardt

My parents told me on Tuesday that they were getting a divorce. It’s been unbelievable amounts of fun. Maybe if they had given me just a little bit of indication of what was about to happen, but they told me so suddenly that I just feel… broken.

My parents, after being separated, are now officially divorced.

I can’t say there haven’t been some moments where I’ve been in pain, winced or sighed or stared off into space, even cried a bit.

But I know they’re doing this for the best, and they’re much happier this way–and we’re still a family. No matter what.
Hugs to you all going through divorces–spouses, children, or friends.

Campion, thanks for getting my back - yes, I totally meant that in an ironical way. It infuriates me that there’s those out there that think the sex of the people in a committed relationship matters at all. It infuriates me that there’s people trying to write discrimination into my state’s constitution. It infuriates me that this is even an issue at all.

Like another Doper said in a different thread - “Want to protect marriage? Outlaw divorce.”