It woudl work better if you used androids instead of droids in the second verse. I’d also remove the ‘off’ from the final verse. 
Mamas, don’t let your babies grow up to be shamans
Don’t let ‘em smoke mushrooms and eat alkaloids
Get ‘em an X-box and make ‘em shoot androids
Mamas don’t let your babies grow up to be shamans
Their spirits’ll roam and they’ll only come home
When their laundry needs droppin’
It works better because it’s not a consonant following a consonant.
monstro, you know about the Morse emitting light fixtures? Oh, THANK GOD, I thought it was just me!
SmashTheState could be reptilian. You dopers cant’ prove me wrong!!
I think the whole argument has more to do with deaf people (some) being pissed off at ignorance - you know: “deaf people can’t talk,” “sign language isn’t a *real *language.” And not wanting to play into all that.
Right, where his post-modern critique falls apart is in it’s inability to recognize the VALUE in a normative culture. If everyone were allowed to be infinitely creative to their full potential there would be no possibility of social cohesion. Schizophrenic creative/destruction can be highly disruptive to the ability to function in an efficient manner.
Schizophrenic Postmodernist: “But don’t you see? These machines, they are Molech eating your soul. You give them 40 hours or more of your soul every week in order to produce an output that you do not reap the benefits of directly.”
Guy in the machine shop: “I’d prefer not to, if I bought into your post-modern critique of my life then there would be no one to stamp these sinks and then everyone would have dirty dishes. I provide a valuable function keeping people from getting E. Coli from their dirty dishes?”
Schizophrenic Postmodernist: “But don’t you see, you are enslaved by the need for dishes. You don’t need those dishes, dishes are a tool of conformity that encumber your freedom?”
Sound of sinks being stamped.
Guy in the machine shop: “But if I didn’t use dishes then I would not be able to eat complex foods that I enjoy. My creative potential as a secret gourmand would be limited if I were stuck eating only the nuts, berries and ferns that I can find growing wild.”
Schizophrenic Postmodernist: “But don’t you see, you have been conditioned to want those things. How are you certain that you even want them? You have been taught to want them by the machine that wants you to keep on producing.”
Guy in the machine shop: “The machine wants me to keep producing?”, looks at his press skeptically.
Schizophrenic Postmodernist: “Of course, you have been taught by the machine the myth of scarcity, it requires that you give up on your creative potential in order to carry on the dictates of an agro-industrial civilization.”
Guy in the machine shop: “Am I currently being hunted by wolves?”
Schizophrenic Postmodernist: “No why?”
Guy in the machine shop: “Well I don’t want to be hunted by wolves, and the machine protects me from them.”
Schizophrenic Postmodernist: “You could defend yourself with a knife.”
Guy in the machine shop: “No I couldn’t that’s what the machine would want me to do.”
Now, now, that’s just Der Trihs’s schtick. Don’t take it personally. 
Thanks, mswas but my way scans better.
At the risk of coming across as a pedant, your schizophrenic is way too coherent and interesting to be schizophrenic. He sounds schizotypal because you can actually have a reasonable conversation with him, and he doesn’t show signs of being cognitively disorganized.
This is a conversation with a true schizophrenic:
Guy in the machine shop: “I’d prefer not to, if I bought into your post-modern critique of my life then there would be no one to stamp these sinks and then everyone would have dirty dishes. I provide a valuable function keeping people from getting E. Coli from their dirty dishes?”
Schizophrenic Postmodernist: “E. Coli bee mole eye. Johnny said I could see with my third eye. Eenie meenie miny moe. Catch a tiger and eat its toe!!! HAHAHAHA! Johnny said Johnny said Johnny said–Hey! Dirty dishes, let’s just eat offa those. The ghosts live in them. That’s what the Hamburgler told me, and lord knows he ain’t never lied! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! What? You don’t believe me? You must be in cahoots with those damn lights. I see the lights in your eyes, you fuckin’ liar. You take one step towards me—(very long pause, blank face). Johnny said Johnny said Johnny said…”
Schizotypes do not have schizophrenia, although they are at high risk of developing it. They are just weirdos and have strange, unusual thoughts that center on supernatural, countercultural phenomena. They are more disordered than diseased, though they suffer from some really awful traits (like paranoia and an inability to connect with others). Schizotypal personality disorder isn’t a good thing to have, but it’s not debilitating like schizophrenia is. Schizophrenia is nothing like what you just portrayed.
Well, Marxian alienation of labor theory really is more of a modernist doctrine than it is post-modernist. Maybe if he could work in some Habermas and talk about meta-narratives and Derrida’s theory of the trace?
Sooooo…his pencil hadn’t fallen where he thought it had, and that’s revelatory how?
I was trying to work in meta-narratives by implication, I guess I didn’t really succeed. I don’t know Habermas or Derrida’s theory of the trace.
Looking up Derrida’s theory of the trace is kind of interesting. One of my problems with post-modernism is that it comes so naturally to me that I think of these ideas myself but am unaware. It must be the underlying matrix of symbology that SmashtheState was referring to.
While Marx’s alienation of labor theory is part of what I was going with it’s only a minor part, the main thrust was that of machines as vampires consuming our lives temporally.
Uhh… “What is the last book of the Bible?”
I’ll move over to State Capitals for $1600, Alex.
While Marx’s alienation of labor theory is part of what I was going with it’s only a minor part, the main thrust was that of machines as vampires consuming our lives temporally. The soul devouring of the alienation was considered better by the worker than being consumed by wolves, whereas the chance of being consumed by wolves is worth it to the SP because it is only a possibility as opposed to the certainty of being devoured by the machine. Marx wasn’t opposed to industrial labor, he was opposed to the lack of investment in ownership by the laborer. SP in this vignette was opposed to industrial labor as a whole. So Communism and Capitalism would be too similar to even warrant serious differentiation for him.
Ahh well, I tried.
Science is:
A method for acquiring accurate knowledge about the universe through careful observation and measurement, controlled experiments, logical analysis of data derived from such observations and experiments, construction of hypotheses based on such data, experiments and analysis, publication of all data and all hypotheses derived from them, and subjection thereto of communal constructive/destructive criticism, in an iterative process.
The body of knowledge acquired by the scientific method as described above, accumulated and continually revised and supplemented over time.
Any more questions?
Now I’ve got that damn Chicago tune going through my head.
Does anybody really know what science is
Does anybody really care
And you just *had *to spread it. Now I’m infected.
Pshaw. You “science” types with your germ theory. Earlier tonight as I was putting my daughter to bed at a family gathering she asked me what time it was, and I replied “Does anybody really know what time it is?”, because I am a jerk and a smartass, and my father, from another room, answered “Does anybody really care?”. I told her it was 9:32, and dismissed it as a coincidence, and also partly because Dad is a jerk and a smartass too. If I believed in the your so-called “nature-nurture” debate rather than the quantum Platonic revelation of archetype as nurature, I’d suspect a pattern. I know better, though. There’s no such thing as a pattern.
Hours later, I came here, and saw this thread, and it was revealed to me that time and Chicago are inextricably intertwined, due to time being a word contained in both the phrase “the end times” and the Chicago song containing the lyrics “does anybody really know what time it is”, and then it was revealed to me that since Obama taught in Chicago and was elected to the senate (in part) by people from Chicago, then Obama and time, or the end times, are also related, which resulted in the revelation that infections are actually caused by proximity to trace elements and vibrations which cannot be detected by your “science”.
Revelation. Put that in your thermodynamics and smoke it.
Honestly, the lack of respect around here for different ways of knowing is just staggering.
Apparently he decided that it meant that reality was inconsistent. Because it’s just unthinkable that he could have been wrong as a child about where a pencil fell, you see.
This part of StS’s original post struck me as rather NON-scientific.
From what I understand of scientific method, you consider all of the evidence – you don’t search for only that which “supports my claim”.
I think that’s called ‘cherry-picking’ or ‘observation bias’. And is consider an error in scientific research.
To be fair. At least he didn’t offer R D Lang.