chicksdigscars people with mental illnesses can not be equated with violent criminals.
They are victims of a disease. Understand? Unlike wife beaters they do not willingly and knowingly inflict physical and emotional pain on people for their own benefit.
If you want to try to defend your amazingly ignorant and intolerant viewpoint this is the place to do it, because if you try I am going to use bad languageand insults, and GD is not the right place for that.
Well, at this point in time, mental illness does carry a very large social stigma.
My cousin is schizophrenic, and he has paranoid delusions. I know that people pointed and laughed and called him a ‘schizo freak’ years ago, and they still do it.
I love my cousin, and I feel horribly that he has been battling with this disease for all of his adult life. And it is a battle. He has to go to the hospital and the assisted living facility sometimes because he can’t take care of himself.
People use mental illness, and asking if you have a mental disorder like schizophrenia as an insult in a debate, so I find it hard to condemn someone solely for being insulted by such an accusation or a question. Most of the time, if you’re debating someone and they ask if you have schizophrenia, they’re not asking out of concern.
It’s also one of the hardest things in the world to answer, a question about whether you have a mental illness. If you say ‘No, I don’t have schizophrenia (or other disease).’ then some people will just say you are in denial.
So, maybe chicksdigscars wasn’t comparing schizophrenia to wife-beating, but instead saying that it’s just as hard to answer the ‘Are you schizophrenic?’ question as the ‘Have you stopped beating your wife yet?’ question.
Sometimes, no matter what answer you give, it only makes things worse.
If somebody accused me of being mentally ill, when I am not in fact mentally ill, I would take it as an insult. You can’t fathom the reasoning behind this? You wouldn’t take offense if a coworker walked up to you and said “Blake, are you retarded!?!”
My first pit. I’m flattered. BTW, I wasn’t comparing mental illness to violent criminals. I was comparing the accusation of mental illness with the accusation of violence. Both are insulting. It is insulting to ask someone if they are mentally ill, but I guess that is just my opinion. If someone wants to offer such info, that is their business. Just as I find it insulting if someone asks me if I have cancer or if I am pregnant. I guess I am the only one here who considers this type of questioning off limits.
Mental illness is a disease. I understand that. What I don’t understand is why someone is mentally ill just because they saw something you did not.
And I refer to this HSP trait as just that, a personality trait. When you use the word “syndrome” or “disorder” it implies that something is wrong. Nothing is wrong with people who are highly sensitive.
I never said you’d find anything related to ghosts on the HSP site. If you want to rip me to shreds for that, so be it.
You are asking me to prove that people can see ghosts. Can you prove that they can’t? For the record, someone else mentioned about a mental health evalution. I don’t need one.
You just want to rip to shreds everything that you disagree with. I have admitted that there isn’t a lot of research into high sensitivity. I realize that I should not have mentioned it. I haven’t read any footnotes or references in anyone else’s posts to show statistics, research or empirical studies to support their claims.
BTW, is this the proper forum to tell you to fuck off?
Also, in case you haven’t figured it out, for you and Ryle Dup, I am NOT a guy.
If I were displaying classic symptoms of mental retardation and they could explain these to me then, no, I wouldn’t.
Repeated hallucinations is a symptom of schizophrenia whether you like it or not. chicksdigscars has admitted to repeatedly seeing people who cannot be seen by anyone else. We know the most common cause of such symptoms is schizophrenia.
Would you be offended if if a coworker walked up to you and said “AtomicBanana, do you have a measles?!” while you are displaying classic measles symptoms? If not the please explain why you are offended at being aksed about mental illness? What is the difference?
To me this seems like people being offfended is someone asks if they have Negro in their ancetsry, but not caring if they are asked if they have Irish. The reaction is a response to prejudice, not any kind of logic.
Mental illness is not comparable to wilful, self-serving, emotional violence on any level you ignorant fucker. No schizophrenic takes delight in there disease, they don’t do it for personal pleasure. It is the highest level of ignorance and intolerance to suggest that asking if someone has a condition over which they have no control is the equivalent to asking if they are a violent criminal who enjoys hurting people. Yet this is exactly what you have done.
Take your bullshit argument form ignorance crap about ghosts to GD where we can continue to demolish your pathetic position using reason and evidence.
This thread is devoted to your hurtful suggestion that having a mental a disease is somehow equitable with being a violent criminal.
Actually, when I first was sick with my Lupus, I had this terrible rash all over me, especially around my eyes, that I couldn’t get rid of.
And yes, people pointed it out to me and said that maybe I had rosacea (a type of acne) and that I should go see a dermatologist because there’s medicine for that.
You know what? I had the symptoms of the big red rash on my face, and I was insulted, because it was really fucking rude of someone to be nosing into my medical problem like that.
Excuse me, but I need to see you quote me where I said that mental illness was equivalent to violence, or some such shit. I said it was insulting to ask someone if they were mentally ill, just as it is insulting to ask someone if they are violent. That is not comparing mental illness to violence. It is pointing out the motivation of the person doing the asking. Got that? The motivation of the PERSON DOING THE ASKING. And apparently your motivation for all this is just an excuse to sling further insults.
All I said was that it was considered an insult (apparently only by me) to ask someone if they are mentally ill. I NEVER EQUATED SCHIZOPHRENIA WITH BEING A VIOLENT CRIMINAL. It is ASKING someone if they are schizophrenic that is insulting.
I can say that until I am blue in the face, but you just don’t get it.
QUESTIONS ABOUT MEDICAL CONDITIONS ARE RUDE. The illness itself is really beside the point.
I gotta agree. I think Blake is starting to take the discussion WAY too seriously. She wasn’t comparing the two things at all, or claiming that they should be in any way equated with each other. What she was saying was that the accusations were equally as insulting.
As insulted as if they had asked you if you beat your wife?
The illness is the entire point. You stated that it is as insulting to be asked if you have schizophrenia as it is to be asked if you beat your wife. You are equating the degree of insult for an illness with the insult of being asked whether you would deliberately and repeatedly emotionally and physically abuse a loved one.
Let me get this straight eutychus
I accuse you of having an illness
I accuse you of deliberately and repeatedly emotionally and physically abusing a loved one for your own pleasure.
You think that both those accusations are equally insulting do you? Or that a schizophrenic should be just as ashamed of hwta he is accused of as a wife beater?
How can that be, when you are the one who brought up the symptom? If I, in the midst of a conversation, mentioned my scalp was itching excessively, should I be offended if the person I was speaking to suggested that head lice might be a possibility?
You’re probably right Blake in that it’s a prejudiced response. Logically, an illness is an illness. But people aren’t always logical, and unless you live totally detached from reality you should know that and be respectful of it. Logically, if black people call eachother niggers, than it should be considered an acceptable term to use when describing their race (or ethnic background, if race isn’t the right term). But it’s not. It’s pretty damn insulting.
A logical response and a reasonable response are two different things. And if somebody calls me retarded you can bet your ass I’m going to be offended.
And it’s not the same thing as asking somebody if they have measles. If you ask me if I have measles and I do, I’ll probably say ‘Yeah, caught it last week, I feel terrible.’ But if I have schizophrenia I’m probably not going to know I have it. So asking if I have it is somewhat pointless, unless the reason you’re doing it is as a means to discredit me and my viewpoints.
