Did he say anything about prison or child molesters?
My Bolding
Could you please translate this for me. I honestly don’t understand the Bolded words/Phases.
My old man: Is this Father or Boyfriend?
deuce less? just under 2 years perhaps?
**Oakalla ** is a prison?
I assume **skinners ** is slang for molesters.
Jim
I never served any time, so I can’t say first hand. I’ve never known John, my friend, to be a liar. I’ve learned a good bit about the society inside prison walls from him.
I assume old man is father, but it may be boyfriend/husband.
A ‘duece less’ is most likely ‘two years less a day’ - common sentance in Canada.
Oakalla is a prision in the Vancouver area - which makes sense since zoogirl is from BC.
I have friends who work in a maximum security facility in New York. The officers don’t know what the imates are convicted of. They could get in trouble for looking it up.
Not that it doesn’t happen, it’s just not suppose to happen.
I won’t see a lot of them until paintball season, I’ll have to ask them what the straight dope is on rapes and child molesters. It seems to come up here often.
Although there is a pecking order, there are very many exceptions, you could make general rules but it isn’t cast in concrete.
Personality does play a bit part, needy prisoners, with weak personalities will have a hard time no matter what their offence.
Other prisoners at risk are those who attack and rob the elderly, either in their own homes or in the street. Junkies who are always in debt are deemed very low as they are more likely to seek protection when they default, and because of the merry go round of debt, one defaulting can affect the abilty of another to pay their own debts…and so it goes.
Sex offenders are almost always isolated once they have been identified, but it is not always that easy for other inmates to do this.
It is not uncommon for them to be identified by prisoners who normally reside in the same locality, and of course the local newspapers round here often have court reports in them.
In the case of one ‘granny basher’ it turned out he was applying for weekend resettlement leave, and given that he had been no problem and a model inmate, it came as a surprise to all that the local police force put the blockers on his application to return to his neighborhood.
Once this got out there was speculation, word got about and he was identified for what he was.
It is not unusual for inmates to have family member who are victims of crime, and in this case, another inmate whose elderly parents had been mugged(not by the inmate in question) slashed and battered him up.
There is a certain kudos for those who are psychopaths to try claim the life of a sex offender, the newspapers have a large role in this in the way they report the crime. Some serious sex offenders seem to generate a great deal more hatred in the press than others, even though all the crimes may be just as heinous.
That’s right, Omni, because it’s important to always remember that in a prison filled with a thousand convicted criminals, it’s the guards who are the bad element.
Seriously, would you willingly help somebody else commit assault or murder? And why would you think I would?
Other prisoners with very bad reputations are thiefs if they are stealing inside prison and people who committed some crime against the country like a terrorist or a spy. Many regular criminals are surprisingly patriotic and hate people who hurt “their” country.
It’s also not uncommon for molesters to “out” themselves. Apparently the same compulsions that led them to commit their crimes also leads them to talk about it.
And a new development is the impact of the internet. We’re seeing recent cases where people out on the street are looking up public databases about registered sex offenders who are in prison and then passing the information on to other prisoners they know. So far the usual motive seems to be extortion but I suppose we’ll eventually start seeing it happening for vigilante purposes.
I asked a related question in this thread a while back. No clear concensus came out, but there were some good insights.
Oops, sorry! I tend to revert a bit sometimes. 
“Old man” is a lovely all-purpose term that can descibe father, boyfriend or person with whom you have co-habited for twenty-five years and three kids, without benefit of legal wedlock. Boyfriend just doesn’t quite cut it.
“A deuce less” is indeed two years less a day. That day means the difference between Provincial and Federal jail. Matter of fact, it was a molester that landed my old man in. The guy had raped the fourteen year old friend of hubby’s sister. My guy took a two-by-four to him. Got nailed for assult.
“Oakalla” was our late, unlamented, local lockup. Beautiful spot, right on Deer Lake. It’s now condos.
“Skinner” is a molester.
Adam got it mostly right.
I used to run male family violence groups.
I was always struck by how quickly a group could change in manner if a child sex offender joined the group as happened every now and then. It could go from ‘we’ve done shameful things’ to ‘well sure we’ve got problems but Im not that bad’ in a matter of seconds. As in ‘sure I raped my wife and broke my kids arm but gee at least I never sexually abused him’ levels of rationalisation.
The desire to tell yourself that you’re not really that bad a guy is pretty powerful, and comparison to someone even worse is a pretty common way to do it.
Otara
My friend went to high school with a guy who got locked up in Utah for molesting children, and used to visit this person in prison. The guy said that he told people that he was in for something else to avoid any problems.
From the responses here it seems that everyone in prison must have a bad reputation from the range of crimes listed - is it possible for anyone to have a good reputation? Do people who defraud multinational corporations of money feel they have moral superiority over a “common thief”? 
Just out of curiosity, why is this suprising?
Yeah, but don’t they go to the swanky, Marth Stewart-like prisons? “I only defrauded a privately held concern that totally devastated the owning family. You, on the other hand, ripped off millions of stockholders, you creepy swine. Go play polo with someone else.”
No clue, but I’d guess that cop killers would be treated like royalty. (Not by the guards, though…)
You really would not want to be a cop killer in prison, as alluded to in the previous post.
Someone who hates authority so much they are prepared to take the life of a lwa enforcement officer is not going to find those who enforce authority in prison as being… approachable.
(regarding the patriotism of prisoners.)
Well, it can be surprising on a couple of levels. On the first level, many criminality seems to imply a level of self-absorbedness, selfishness and a disregard for the rights of others. This does not seem compatible with a worldview like patriotism, which usually involves a feeling of solidarity with one’s countrymen.
On the second level, if you love a country, why would you disregard its laws?
I do realize that people and situations are more complicated than that, usually.
My mama did a stint in a women’s prison down in Florida, so I emailed her with this question. According to her, you wouldn’t know what crime anyone committed unless they told you, and she never heard of any child molesters in the prison while she was there. The prisoners were usually in for drug offenses or scams like forging checks, etc. There were a couple of murderers, including an elderly woman who had hacked her husband to pieces with an axe, and then tried to mail him via Fed-Ex.
Oops! That “many” should have been removed when I rewrote the sentence.
In prison? here’s a guy who stole billions of dollars-and took it from elederly retired people, innocent investors, the electric ratepayers of california. By any stretch, this man’s thievery was massive (of course, he claims he din’t know what his own company was up to). Anyway, suppose Ken gets a 30 year sentance in one of our finer priisons: won’t his life be pretty miserable? Instead of champaign and caviar, this guy will be eating bologna sandwiches, drinking cool-aid. And, where will be stand in the pecking order? some 300 lb prisoner/lifer named “Jamal X” will probably make his life miserable.