Do the people who have pled guilty (or any people who eventually get convicted) in the Georgia case have to do regular check-ins or anything else specifically in Georgia?
For example, if Trump got probation there, or Giuliani, would they wind up having to fit twice-per-week (or whatever) trips to Georgia into their schedules?
I can’t speak for Geogia specifically, but generally probation can be transferred to another state. Also, for these dudes, the courts will probably have very “inactive” probation without a lot of conditions other than making sure they’ve done their community service and paid their fines.
“can”, but the question is whether it would be.
If I was the State of Georgia, I’d be pissed that these assholes tried to subvert the legal operation of my government, and I wouldn’t go out of my way to make things convenient for them, even if they’re on probation.
When Chesebro pled out, his lawyer asked if the probation could be served in Puerto Rico, where the Cheese currently lives. The judge seemed to think that was possible, but would take a bit of time to organize.
For non violent offenders court’s tend not to care too much. As I said, they want someone to check the fines are paid and community service is completed. It can all be done from a distance. It’s not like they’re going to do random UAs or stop by to make sure they’re not cooking meth in their kitchen.
What about fondue?
the same was being done for ellis. she requested that her probation be transferred to florida.
Either jail a person or don’t, but requiring a person to move to a state for the purpose of serving a probation would seem unreasonable, even for assholes.
Nobody’s requiring them to move there- just check in with their probation officer however often.
Really though, if they can’t do the time, they certainly shouldn’t have done the crime. Probation is really a generosity, even if it comes with stipulations like it has to be done in Georgia, etc… so I’m feeling no sympathy if it turns out that way.
That might be - but the decision to submit a transfer request is not going to be up to the “State of Georgia” , it’s going to be up to specific people in a county or state agency in Georgia who would probably be overjoyed to get Trump/Giuliani off their caseload and not have to deal with them or the problems that will no doubt come along with them.
I worked for a parole agency for many years.The same Interstate Compact covers parolees and probationers and it’s a violation to allow a probationer/parolee to live in state A and be supervised by state B.
Since marijuana procession in any quantity is a federal offense, the same potentially applies to most Americans, or at least most American men.
You guys are rough.
Probation should be to rehabilitate and reduce chances of recidivism. It can be done as well or poorly in Puerto Rico as Georgia.
I think in these cases (subversion of elections, insurrection, etc…), imprisonment is probably on the light side.
I’m of the opinion that they should crucify these clowns, up to and including Trump, to set a message that fooling around with the electoral system and peaceful transfer of power is not something that will be tolerated.
Otherwise what do we get? A de-fact admission that they effectively got away with it because they weren’t punished as harshly as the law allows.
Normally I’m more or less forgiving for first offenders, but in this case, once is far too much, and they should be punished as severely as the law allows.
If they’re all facing crucifixion, you drastically reduce the chance of getting any of the small fish to testify against Trump. It would be the opposite of the prisoner’s dilemma.
Small Fish “So, what am I facing if I go to trial and get convicted?"
Defence counsel: “Crucifixion.”
Small Fish: “Ouch! What if I plead out, spill my guts to the prosecution, hand over all my text messages with the Big Fish, and promise to testify as truthfully as possible about what the Big Fish was doing?”
Defence counsel: “Yeah, I phoned the DA and [checks notes], oh yeah, she said it would be crucifixion.”
Little Fish: “wow! Isn’t there any way I can avoid crucifixion?!?”
Defence counsel: “Plead not guilty and we go to a five-month trial. It’ll use up all your life savings and I’d estimate we’d have a 10% chance of acquittal, but we’re really rolling the dice.”
Little Fish: “10 % chance of acquittal is better than 100% chance of crucifixion. Roll the dice.”
Wouldn’t that fall under cruel and unusual punishment?