You’d also have to hire about 100000 ATF agents to go door to door to get rid of those 300 Million guns already there. And expect about 10000 Ruby Ridge situations. With of course many tens of thousands of LE and gun owners dead.
The casualty count would exceed the school shootings by many, many times.
Well, by all means, try. But I’d really like to find something that will happen in our lifetimes (and most people will probably have the ability to print out fully functional guns at home in our lifetime too - so lets please stop pretending guns are going away - they aren’t).
So what do we tell our kids?
But we are constantly reassured they’re law-abiding. So, nothing to worry about.
In your scenario, those casualties would be essentially self-inflicted, unlike in a mass murder.
That we’re all so very very sorry, and we hope they can do better.
“Hey, son, how was your day?” or something to that effect.
Given how “shocked” the shooter’s families typically are, I doubt they spend 2 minutes a day talking to them.
And the victim’s families??
I’m going to try to give you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you didn’t mean that to come across so callously.
I think it’s counterproductive to imply that the obvious and only solution is in some sense “impossible”, something we must just accept as though it’s inevitable, when it’s actually just something we choose not to do. A majority of Americans have consistently chosen that the right of ordinary citizens to obtain guns with few restrictions is more important than the unfortunate (but straightforward) consequence that our society is awash with guns; and that the subset of citizens who are criminal, angry, suicidal, mentally unstable, or just angst-ridden teenagers can also easily obtain guns (whether legally or not).
School shootings get a lot of publicity, but the probability of your own kids being killed in a school shooting is still extremely low. Presumably that probability is just not yet high enough to encourage the majority to change their minds about giving up their right to own guns.
I really don’t see the need to wring our hands and say “there must be some solution other than the obvious one that we choose not to implement”. We should repeal the 2nd Amendment, or we must own the consequences, one of which is school shootings.
A profanity laced tirade against the NRA and gun owners is no more going to comfort the victim’s families than “hopes and prayers”. Seriously, you have little to no influence on other people’s kids. You do have influence on your own kid. You do have control over your own gun stash (or lack of).
A lot of these school shooters have red flags up the yin yang, which somehow, are only seen after the fact. They need to be identified and dealt with, in ways other than pumping them with benzos.
Well, current laws, yes. But any one can have issues or not get the word with new laws. So, it’s Ok by you that gun owners die, they dont deserve to live, eh?
The ATF agents, also?
“Guess what, kids? We’re moving to Sweden!”
Your typical hard-core anti is willing to sacrifice however many lives are necessary to stop the killing. That’s just how they roll.
And what kind of probability do you think that will need to be?
Are we going to wait until that probablility is “high enough”? I suspect the probably you’re talking about, is everybody personally knowing a school shooting victim. Fact of the matter is, people like their guns more than they like other people’s kids they never met. Sad but true.
I never said do nothing, I’m talking about things that don’t involve us turning into Sweden, because we aren’t Sweden. Whatever we do is going to have to fall under the parameters of the second amendment existing, until whatever probability theshold you’re talking about happens.
I don’t recall saying anything about a “profanity laced tirade against the NRA and gun owners”. Are you perhaps confusing me with another poster?
We as a society are collectively responsible for the world we create that our children grow up in. You can feel that your kid is the only one that you can have an effect on, but that’s just not the way the world works. The decisions we collectively make as a society, and the results that follow, we are collectively responsible for. Our kids are screaming to get our attention that they are tired of seeing their friends get killed and thinking about themselves getting shot at school and right now our collective reaction is a shrug and the equivalent of “what are ya gonna do?”. The fact that so many of us see no problem with this is going to haunt us. Having such disregard for the safety of our children in their schools is not a sign of a healthy society.
Please. Ever hear of “suicide by cop”? That’s what you’re describing. Some of the gun-blazers would no doubt tell themselves they were militias resisting tyranny etc., and some others would believe it, but that wouldn’t make it true. Do please tell us who would actually be responsible for all these deaths you imagine (or is that threaten?).
LEO’s go to work every day knowing some a-hole with a gun could end it all. Do you advocate that they don’t do their jobs, that we abandon civilization and the rule of law instead, just because some people don’t like it?
If your death-threatening scenario were to come to pass, not saying that it would, you also need to give LEO organizations a little credit for planning and execution, being as how they actually are well-regulated in the real senses of the term. Please reread the parts of the Constitution about suppressing insurrection while you’re at it.
Actually, despite our hundreds of millions of guns, the uSA doesn’t really have that many school mass attacks:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/sorry-despite-gun-control-advocates-claims-u-s-isnt-the-worst-country-for-mass-shootings/
Note that there have even been some mass murders at a school with nothing but edged weapons.
I don’t know what you would say to a victim’s family. I do know that a fair amount of people would have some choice words to say about the NRA.
Well, I suspect that if there’s a sea-change in attudes of screaming children in regards to guns, they will probably vote out all the politicians that support the 2A, won’t they?
Sure, but they would still be dead. Saying that “it’s their fault” is blaming the victim, and saying “they knew the job was dangerous” doesn’t comfort the widows much.
It would still be a death toll many, many times higher than school shootings. The idea that it’s Ok to kill that many is just wrong.
Nobody is blaming the victim, and I don’t see where you’re getting that from. The responsibility for killing falls on the killer and on the killer’s facilitators.
You know who’s presenting that as a plausible scenario, one worth considering realistically, even threatening it? Hint: Not me.
What about the rest of the kids? The ones that weren’t the killer, or victims (yet), who go to school every day making sure they know the active shooter drill, where the closest exit and tree line is, and think about “what if today it happens at my school”. They think about losing their friends, or think about their family if it happens to them. This is what our kids are thinking about because of the world we have made for them to grow up in. What will you say to them since you are the one saying there is nothing we can do to change things? That was what my original question was. I’m not sure why you thought I was referring to the shooters, as that was your first reply.
Given the registration drives that are being generated by the movement started by the Parkland kids, I’d say you may see this happen sooner than you think. By the way, I’ve never been in favor of banning guns or taking them away, I just want more common sense laws to keep them out of the hands of dangerous people and disturbed kids. However the more defiant the gun rights side is to do anything the more people like me you push even further away. If you want a seat at the table to help solve this, then step up, if not, it’ll get dealt with without your input, and probably not in a way you will be happy about.