Do one hit wonders generally know they're one hit wonders?

Now Chumbawamba, one of the few acts I can say I was around for, which made it big.

They played regularly around my area late 80s, and were quite a riot. VERY socialist songs, their third(ish) album Shh was my initial time seeing the band, and them doing the songs from that album on their tours before releasing them officially. They loved their music, and strong politics and didn’t give a f**k . Their shows were spectacles of 7-8 of them with trumpets and trombones and the likes squeezed onto small stages, with Danbert singing through a megaphone and Alice Nutter highkicking dressed as a nun drinking vodka (singing the song Big Mouth Strikes again). They were funny, striking, and unmissable if you liked their politics.

I loved the albums from this time, Pictures of Starving Children Sell records is a funny critique of Live Aid, and the musicians profiting from it, with a song saying to nail up Bono or Cliff Richard (depending on album, it changed live). Shhh was anti censorship, after the band embraced sampling and made an album, white, called Jesus H. Christ which sampled lots of things such as the Beatles and were sued and withdrew it. They still sold a vinyl version of that album at their gigs. Yes, I’ve got one and it’s VERY different from Shhh!

To say they were left wing was a bit glib, and a simplification. Nowadays, anyone based in reality is left wing. Freedom was more their politics, for example That’s how grateful we are is a song about the Hungarian rebellion in 1956 where they took hammers and destroyed Stalin’s statues in Budapest.

They were anti-establishment and hated major record labels, criticising EMI, releasing a lot on their own label Agit-Prop. Eventually they signed to One Little Indian, and Indie record label in the 90s.

They did get more popular in the UK towards the mid 90s, growing and fading with the hits and misses, a bit like the Levellers, fill a huge venue one year, small one next. I was less fond of these years, with songs like Timebomb, Enough is Enough, it was more politics than fun. The funny songs ended up on the album, and sometimes in their act. But still, we went to see them every time they played near us.

It was 1997 when I went back to Reading to see them at the Sub 69 club with friends, they explained on stage what had been happening with the band and label and stuff and played Tubthumper to us (and other hits). There was absolutely no clue as to this being the massive hit it was. Frankly about 20 of their songs could be massive hits. What was the difference? EMI.

The trouble was they had recorded Tubthumper off their own money, having spent 40K in studio fees, and none of them were rich in any way. Then One Little Indian, their record label dropped them, leaving them on the hook for all that debt, a record and no-one to sell it for them. One Little Indian dropped a lot of acts around then, their big act was Bjork, and that was about the only one they kept. So, Chumba had to suck it down and sign soon and get the money back. EMI Germany offered to sign them.

EMI’s market is like a machine given the right material and will. They made Tubthumping the song the hit that it is. EMI released the next record WYSIWYG as well.

I’ll skip the Tubthumper album. I’ve never been much of a fan of it, it’s of it’s time like Showbusiness and Anarchy. Looking at the Tracklist now, I probably didn’t play it much at all, probably the least of all their albums. But they were FAMOUS now.

Their next album WYSIWYG is much much better, and the rest are all better than the last three. Released of the money worries, their next album actually took a whole lot of piss out of being famous, touring america, and was funny as fuck. They turned down a LOT of money from multiple sponsors trying to use Pass it along for their adverts, and it still stands very well as critique of the Isolation of the Internet (“Send this song to 20 people, Add your name, don’t break the cycle, Pass it along by word of mouse, Save the world, don’t leave the house”).

So they had their chance to be a “two hit wonder” but they had the choice to not be.

The rest of their studio albums were excellent (apart from abberations like the soundtrack which might be ok, I think I own it, but never listened to it or seen the film Revengers Tragedy). Readymades was superb with lots of techno influences, a highlight being: (working for the Gap)Sewing up crap… Un covered technology, A Singsong and a scrap was much more folkey, Their last GREAT album was The Boy Bands have Won, with a second excellent shot at the Internet, and facebook with Add me (as a friend), with such lyrics as "here’s a picture of me in my Nazi uniform, Doing a trick with an egg that I like to perform, At a monster truck rally that my Mum and me attend, Would you like to add me as a friend?

Their final album, ABCDEFG was after half the band left, and the five piece performed as an acapello group. That was the last time we saw them, with about 100 others in Stourbridge. That was 11 years ago. I think Tubthumping in the end made so much money for them they gave up.

What I always miss from them is the liner notes on their CDs and albums. Every song had a long description about who it was about, often an obscure name, an act of rebellion in Nazi Germany by a man walking about in the nude with a bowler hat on, or a mexican rebel getting shot by a firing squad and surviving.

But in answer to do some one hit wonders know they, some not only know they are, they’ve tried to avoid making any hits, and refused opportunities to make themselves two or more hit wonders.

I just wonder how big they’d be if Tubthumper was actually a good album. It was probably their worst. The song was about the best thing on it, but not anywhere close to the best Chumba song.

Which is good news for us fans. Google that little-known band you liked; chances are you can see them cheap somewhere!

A decade ago I did that with Poco, and they were on a tour of quirky little clubs and festivals. The closest they were to Chicago was playing at a “Route 66 Hot Air Balloon Festival” south of Peoria. For five bucks.

The most fun I’ve ever had listening to One or Two Hit Wonders is the Cornerstones of Rock tour: a couple of songs each by The Ides of March, New Colony Six, The Buckinghams, the Cryan Shames and the Shadows of Knight. Saw them for free two years in a row at Summerfest* (Mke).

.

*Summerfest is mostly free stages full of Bands Past Their Prime. But still great: last year, Steve Miller, John Fogerty and Todd Rundgren were wonderful, Modest Mouse and Toad the Wet Sprocket were so tight, and Southside Johnny and The Black Crowes and Corinne Bailey Rae were still full of energy. And nostalgia.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP76X-9JwVM](https://Chumbawamba taking a dig at themselves(and James Hetfield))

That link is broken. But James Hetfield is just one of the last in the long list of songs giving crap to music celebrities… Torturing James Hetfield was on their final album.

Chumba had so many good songs, that I even forgot one of the their last best, an anthem for us working plebs: I wish that they’d sack me (and leave me to sleep)

What got me, though, was the back-and-forth upthread that boiled down to, look, Quiet Riot clearly had one big smash hit with Cum On Feel The Noize, but how big a follow-up hit was Bang Your Head?

So: how big a hit was Always On My Mind, compared to Cum On Feel The Noize? Heck, how big a hit was it compared to On The Road Again?

Corrected YouTube link

Looking at peak chart performance (Billboard Hot 100) for Nelson:

  • Blue Eyes Crying in the Rain: #21
  • On the Road Again: #20
  • Always On My Mind: #5
  • Let It Be Me: #40
  • Good Hearted Woman (with Waylon Jennings): #25
  • To All the Girls I’ve Loved Before (with Julio Iglesias): #5

Peak chart performance (Billboard Hot 100) for Quiet Riot:

  • Cum On Feel the Noize: #7
  • Bang Your Head (Metal Health): #31

So, their two “peak” songs were pretty similar in how well they did (Always on My Mind at #5, Cum On Feel the Noize at #7), but Nelson also had a #20, #21, and #40 (not to mention the two collaborations that went to #5 and #25), while Quiet Riot’s next-highest charting song went to #31, and nothing else of theirs cracked the top 40.

Also, according to Wikipedia, Nelson’s recording of “Always on My Mind” was certified as platinum for sales, and won three Grammy Awards (for what that’s worth), while Quiet Riot’s “Cum On Feel the Noize” was certified gold.

“Movies” did pretty well, especially on rock radio in the US (apparently hit #5 pop and #1 rock in the UK), and the video was played a lot on MTV and notable and remembered for the cameos. Of course, just about EVERY time a “one hit wonder” is mentioned there is some debate over the definition, because some acts truly only have 1 song with any chart action, while others might have a #1 hit and several minor hits (including top 40s) but the one big one is just massive in comparison. I think if you get multiple singles that get played somewhere (especially, for example, rock charts during eras when rock songs were rarely eligible or released as pop singles) and get play on MTV/VH1 during the video era it’s hard for me to say it’s a one-hit wonder - even if most people only remember 1 song.

And don’t forget ‘Spill The Wine’ with Eric Burdon.

Oh, yeah, I recognize that one, too. Had no idea that was War. Though knowing that now, it does totally sound like them.

It’s a common phenomenon that some band/artist has a surprise smash hit that stays in the charts for weeks and weeks and is played on the radio all the time, and when the follow-up single is released weeks later, it immediately shoots into the top 40 just on strength of the hit, but soon dwindles into oblivion and is forgotten forever. So these acts are not one hit wonders by the strict definition of top 40 success, but in all other regards.

actually, I think the pet shop boys have made more money from always on my mind than Willie originally did

Ive seen concert footage where he jokes about how two “dodgy” British lads have made him more money than himself and Elvis Presley did off the song

The funniest version is the live version where neil Tennant starts by standing there and singing the song for the nth millionth and 2 time then the lead singer (and well-known 80sphiile )of the killers comes out and starts vamping it up singing it like a gay breakup song …and has him visibly laughing at one point …

I’m sure Carl Perkins hoped to have as many hits as his buddies from the early days of Sun Records. By the 1980s, when asked about his OHW status by David Letterman, he had definitely come to grips with the fact that “Blue Suede Shoes” was as good as it was ever gonna get for him, and he happily played the hell out of it.

The mention of Slade and Quiet Riot makes me wonder when a band like Quiet Riot covers another artist’s song like they did with “Cum on Feel the Noiz” who gets the royalties when the Quiet Riot version is replayed?

Quiet Riot?

Slade?

The original songwriters?

Is it split among the three?

Is it possible a musician would make no money from a cover of another artist’s song?

My understanding is that there are two types of royalties/residuals for any particular recording of a song:

  • To whoever holds the rights to the song/composition (i.e., the writers)
  • To whoever holds the rights to the actual performance on the recording (i.e., the band)

In the case of “Cum On Feel the Noize,” it was written by two members of Slade (Noddy Holder and Jim Lea); depending on who actually currently owns the rights to the song itself, either the two of them would get a residual for its play (by any artist), or the rights holder would.

Similarly, the band which records a song would get residual payments for when their recording is played, but this, too, will depend on the exact nature of the contract that they have/had with their record company and management.

It’s apparently not uncommon for a band – particularly a band without a track record of success, as Quiet Riot would have been prior to the release of the Metal Health album – to have a contract with a record label, and/or a manager, which winds up netting the band very little in the way of profits from their own recordings.

A song which was recorded by Band X, and then later Band Y, would not net any payments to Band X for play of the Band Y version of the song (save for, potentially, the writing credits, as noted above).

It might be the life and story of a session artist in Nashville trying to break out.

Thank you for such a detailed explanation!!

Sometimes this question simply leads to who has “sold out”. I hear my favorite band “The Cult” in Car commercials snd movies. I always thought they were so niche and obscure and altetnative to “MY Eighties and Nineties”. But they havr put out some shit albums the last 15 years and they ain’t hurtin’…yet…

Same eith Glenn Danzig and “Mother”. Danzig were as hardcoredevilmetal i could get. Now, “Mother” is a a vanilla anthem.

Danzig sings (sung) Elvis at the Tropicana in Vegas on May 12 th. $109.oo to $299.oo + fees. SOLD OUT.

Back in the olden days (1960s) songwriters made 2 cents a side (one song on each album or single sold). Songwriters usually had to cut their publishers in for half of that. Performers got one and a half a cents per side.