No, but if something fails to compute on 4,000 peoples’ computers, it ain’t real.
Sorry, I should have no said no legitimate clinical study. Half of those studies admit that no significant results were found. From your own cites:
Oh, there might be a 10% to 20% reduction, even though it couldn’t be shown?
Another is merely claiming it has anti-oxidant properties and stops free radicals…that it may do, but the jury is still out on whether anti-oxidants really are as awesome as believed, and if you can even get all the anti-oxidents these foods/extracts claim to have by eating them.
And the two that claimed to have good results were in vitro studies, so big whoop-dee-do. You can’t do an in vitro study and then just turn around and claim it will work exactly as it did like that in the human body. Hey, guess what, I can cure HIV infections in an in vitro experiment if I wanted to, so I guess I should become a millionaire for making the cure to HIV/AIDS?
I’ve never really heard the term “mood-making,” before, but I take it to mean some sort of “mind over matter” type of thing? Then no, that is not what I am saying at all, though I will agree with you that you are self-deceiving yourself to a degree.
Confirmation bias is when you (usually unconsciously) remember when something worked in your favor (you took the herb and didn’t get sick,) and ignore/explain away the times it didn’t (oh, I didn’t take the herb soon enough, so I got sick.)
There’s a reason every single herbal supplement has the disclaimer “This claims have not been evaluated by the FDA. The product is not intended to treat, cure, or prevent any disease.” It’s because they know they can’t do shit, and if they ever did TRY to get approval from the FDA to say they can legitimately cure or prevent a cold, they would get a big letter back saying “your studies didn’t prove a damn thing, keep that disclaimer on there.”
But hey, if you want to waste your money on useless things, be my guest. No skin off my back.
That would depend on what type of datat was inputed, who inputed it, why did they input it and how much or how little did they input.
If it ever gets to the point of ‘skin off your back’ let me know, I’ll send you an herbal recipe for an herbal poultice that will fix you right up. 
Here’s another part of that story that pertains to the point I am making. One time I got really bad from too much booze, cigs, aspirin, coffee etc. and went to an internal med guy. He scoped me and said my stomack looked like a Viet Nam battle field after a mortar attack. He said he wasn’t going to mess around, he was going to give me what he called ‘the atomic bomb’ of ulcer medication…Prilosec (before it was OTC). He said he could only prescribe it for 60 days because it caused tumors in lab rats.:eek: I told him I was also going to take my CC, aloe, and some new stuff called DGL(licorice root extract) which helps heal ulcers and coat the stomach lining to make it stronger. The doctor rolls his eyes in his head and says, “If you was the placebo effect, fine, it won’t hurt you.” So anyway, I get off the Prilosec in 7 days due to the effectivness of the herbal regime and don’t go see the guy until another two years have gone by. Guess what he adviced me to do? Have you guessed yet? Well, I’ll tell you. The pompus fuck had the audacity to tell me this: “Well, Mr. Houston, us Internal Med guys have been recommending to our patients that they take this marvelous compound called DGL, it’s a licorice root extract that heals, sooths and coats the stomach lining.”
When I heard him say this, my jaw dropped and I ripped into him telling him how I had told him that two yrs. previously and he had condescendingly poo hooed me and because I had taught him something that he now used as a standard protocol, without crediting the source, I was going to charge him exactly what this office visit cost as my teaching fee for him was. I walked out of the office, never looked back and never received a bill. To the best of my knowledge, DGL has not been approved by the FDA. Neither has cannabis for glaucoma or chemotherapy.
An herb is nothing but a plant with medicinal qualities. The cigs/coffee some people on this site consume daily are herbs that have very powerful mind altering, mood changing effects and have not been approved by the FDA but they work.
People of yore didn’t just walk around the country side grabbing random bushes, leaves, twigs and bark and say, “Me take this for tummy, Me take this for hemroids.” There was a reason they took what they took for the reason they took it. It was the best they had to work with until modern science came on the scene.
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