Thanks, everybody, for answering my question. Consider me abashed.
Mind-controlled? I’d forgotten that, but it’s been a while since I’ve seen that movie.
BTW, “mind-controlled, so not my fault” is the oldest excuse in the book (right up there with “just following orders … inside my brain!”). It’s how Lucius Malfoy and his buddies got off the hook, first time around.
But “minnis” isn’t a word, afaik.
It’s not an excuse if it’s true… Wanda brain fucked him at the beginning of the movie.
That’s part of Marvel. Being a superhero has repercussions. In DC, the characters were essentially gods with contrived weaknesses and enemies. Marvel was always more “realistic”, with heroes that had personality flaws and sometimes the “enemy” was their own hubris.
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature, as they say.
It is, though not a common one, surviving mostly in a few placenames and surnames.
[Edit - which also explains why his voice-to-text program capitalized it.]
Although I did like the first Fantastic Four movie, on account of having actual dialog and character development and plot rather than just going from one explosion to the next, it did fall prey to this: the FF were applauded for stopping fights or crises which they actually caused (The Thing ran off like a big goof and cannonballed into the middle of the Brooklyn Bridge during rush hour, causing much damage, destruction and near loss-of-life, for example).
I composed the OP using the dictation feature on my iPhone rather than typing it using a wireless keyboard, as I don’t carry said keyboard around every place. When I do that, I will dictate a sentence and then stop to listen to it to find any place the iPhone has screwed up. For example, in the previous sentence, it transcribed CARRY as “care he.” But homophones (some of which the goddamn phone just makes up on the spot because the goddamn programmers are frequently goddamn incompetent) can easily trip me up. To find them I have to go letter by letter at times, which I will think to do if I am concerned about, for example, WAIT coming out as WEIGHT, but obviously can’t always fine. Sorry.
However, as if to make up for this failing, the iPhone does allow me to do things like pronounce the name STARK as ASSHOLE. That’s always fun!
OK.
Lol! 
I hate any superhero story in which the villain’s main motivation and raison d’etre is to antagonize the hero(es), be it for “revenge” or some other contrived reason. It’s just lousy, lazy writing. If there’s no actual threat that the hero is actually needed for, the public would be SO much better off if he just hung up his costume.
Arrow is a particularly grievous offender; I’ve suffered through season after season of this trope.
Oh, you and I never agree, Dibble. I fully expect you to explain someday that the sky has turned orange.
(I wish there was some way for me to do SDMB emoticons.)
[Moderating]
Skald, given that these text-to-speak errors are likely to continue to be a problem, I’d like to ask permission in advance to just clean up the more egregious ones. Is that OK with you?
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One challenge in superhero stories is that the superheroes and supervillains need to appear on the scene at the same time, or close to it, or you end up with an untenable imbalance. There are other ways of dealing with this issue, but the heroes creating the villains (or vice-versa) is one of the simpler ones.
I’m pretty sure “Minis” was meant.
No, Skald, superheroes don’t create Minis. BMW does. BMC did during the “Silver Age.”
Yeah, at first I was picturing a new Superman power of making small clones of himself, but I figured it out soon enough.
I kinda agree. I don’t think it’s a bad trope, but it can get tiring. And it makes heroes for whom this was an important trait less special.
And I agree that, as long as the superhero in general is supposed to be aspirational (which does still apply to Marvel movies, even with their more flawed heroes), it works better if the world is still better on average for the existence of superheroes–even if there are also more cataclysms.
Of course, if your movie is like Watchmen or one of those other more subversive movies about superheroes, then it makes sense otherwise. But, if they are meant to actually be heroes, we should really be able to actually look up to them.
Also Killian (Tony was a jerk to him). It’s actually a really common theme in the Marvel movies that the villain was caused by either the hero, their father, or their mentor. The only one that don’t really fit are Guardians of the Galaxy and Infinity War. (Of course, Thanos IS Gamora’s “dad” so it still is connected.)
Not MCU, but since Marvel and Pixar are both owned by Disney…
Mr Incredible creates Syndrome by not wanting Buddy as a sidekick.
All those are reaching imo, being mean to someone doesn’t make you responsible for what they do. Specially not Mr Incredible who was just protecting a stupid kid.
On the other hand, in the also-Disney Big Hero 6 (which even has a Stan Lee cameo), it was a minor villain who created the major villain, and the major villain then prompts the rise of the heroes.
Or by Buddy insisting on being a sidekick, for which he wasnt suited. Cant blame this on Mr Incredible.
The term “Minnis” stopped me cold. Off to Google.
EDIT: Google had nuthin’ :shrug: