ThinkProgress isn’t a cite.
Another poster provided a cite earlier in the thread. Most poor households don’t have a full-time worker in them. Plenty of time to go to the pharmacy during regular hours, instead of the Quickie-Mart at 3 AM.
Jesus, what do some of you guys do for fun? Watch the rat footage from The Eternal Jew on mute and imagine they’re talking about poor people?
Here, read the whole report then.
The fact that someone in a household may not have a job doesn’t mean they’re going to trot off to Walgreens to buy female condoms for a teen living there. “Hey grandma, get up off your lazy butt and get me some girl-rubbers while I’m at school or we’ll have another mouth to feed soon!” is not going to fly in most households.
agree.
don’t agree. There are certainly choices that can be made that are never poor. Staying in school and actually learning the material is one. Those who skip school know it’s a poor choice.
So what are you saying exactly? We should depend on charity or focus on making good decisions?
Yes. The type of jobs available that I got any feedback on at all were all temporary and low pay. By the time I paid to travel there, maintain myself while there, got paid, and moved back home I would have LOST money - am I supposed to work at a loss?
Funny - the wealthy aren’t expected to operate at a loss but poor people are castigated for not jumping at “opportunities” that will be a net loss in the end.
Should I permanently relocate for a temporary job? I can get temporary jobs here. What I needed was permanent, full time work, which I finally have. Even if the pay is low there is at least a potential for it to increase. If it doesn’t, well, it’s easier to find a job when you’re employed.
Or maybe I should just pick up and move to a new location where I have no place set up to live, no family, no friends, no network, and HOPE I find work before I starve to death? This makes sense… how?
But hey - refusing to lose money is just an “excuse” to you. Another damned if I do, damned if I don’t situation.
Why didn’t you link to that initially, instead of a partisan website?
Someone may not have a job? If I recall the cite correctly, in poor households, no one has a full time job. So plenty of time to get to the pharmacy.
No, but you did explain why you are without compassion - so, since you don’t give a damn about my feelings why should I care about yours?
On the contrary.
When I was solidly middle class I actively support soup kitchens, shelters, and social welfare. I worked at an inner city clinic for four years. I didn’t just contribute money to panties, shelters, and the Chicago Food Network I gave my labor as well. Being financially well off and comfortable did not make me less empathic and I did not begrudge that portion of my taxes that went to social welfare.
The truth is a very small fraction of the tax dollars you pay go to support the poor. The poor are not what is driving up taxes. If you want to be angry about your tax money direct your ire to legislative salaries, the military, and the bullshit pork approved every day in DC.
People frackin’ worship the military, but bitch about how much money the poor cost them when in reality the military eats far more of their taxes than the poor ever will. How does that make sense? Applaud weapons that kill people, but begrudge the hungry their dinner.
Sure there is, not having babies when you’re a teen. that’s like a thousand times better than not having sex.
I don’t know what it is with you conservatives. Why does it have to be either/or? Are we so morally bankrupt that we can’t have high expectations for both ourselves and others?
Yesterday I left my wallet on the bus. POOR CHOICE on my part. Fortunately, a kind person found it and turned it in, instead of “teaching me a lesson” by stealing me blind. We should teach our children not to be careless. But we can also teach them to look out for their neighbor too. Why the fuck can’t we do both?
There are approximately 150 million female Americans.
1 million rapes would be .0067% of US females raped each year by my math.
There are LOT of people in the US.
Now, I don’t know if there actually are that many “forcible rapes” in the US each year or not - my cursory Google search has stats all over the place, not in the least because there are different definitions of rape, but honestly, 1 million people is only 1/300th of the total US population and 1/150th of the total female humans in the US. Granted, only a subset of those females are capable of having children, so that would be 1 million women of child bearing age raped a year - that does alter the stats a bit, but not by that much.
Of course, another way of looking at things is that even one rape is too many but let’s stop there.
We can definitely teach them to look out for their neighbor. What we shouldn’t teach them is forcing others, by reaching into their pockets, to look out for their neighbor.
where did you get this idea from?
1 out of 5 is on food stamps. 43% don’t pay any Federal Income Tax.
Your math is wrong. By two orders of magnitude.
I gave a cite for that data in my post. Go and look. It also gives the definition by which it counts.
1 million forcible rapes/year overstates the reality by around 1200%. Check out that math.
Obviously you have never been a teenage girl trying to convince her boyfriend to put on a condom. Or even a single woman in her 20’s trying to convince her boyfriend to put on a condom.
The food industry - not just fast food but all processed food producers - pay scientists enormous amount of money to research human appetite and engineer their food to appeal to our base biology. That’s why the bread you make at home has about 4 or 5 ingredients and the bread you buy at the store has about 20. A few of the extra items are preservatives, but the “dough conditioners” and “malt extract” and so forth are to appeal to your taste buds.
In addition - when people are stressed (and poor people, like everyone else, have stress) they gravitate towards “comfort food”: fat, salt, and sugar. Which McDonald’s food has in abundance. It’s a survival instinct, as a way for our hunter-gatherer ancestors to build up reserves against famine. Thing is, famine doesn’t really exist for us anymore and bodies wind up the food equivalent of a hoarder’s home: WAY overstuffed with crap.
You have to LEARN to eat differently than that, it doesn’t come naturally. It might feel natural if you’ve had the habit long enough but it’s not.
How’s that for a theory? Probably still a few flaws, consider it a rough draft.
Again, when did this conversation move from “the poor in general” to “the chronic poor”?
And how do you distinguish at a glance between the two?
I don’t know what is with you liberals.
Say your wallet was never found, or that someone did in fact steal it. Would you expect the government to replace the wallet and its contents?
So you’ve done both and compared then?
Too many people are ignorant enough to think that villains from abroad will somehow invade America and take away freedom. Instead, large standing militaries are a threat to freedom, which is why the US had such a small standing military between wars, up until the Cold War.
Yeah, but reality argues against that.
Yeah, but they pay other taxes, and besides, all those food stamps are still a drop in the bucket compared with offense spending. We could all save a lot of money if our government would stop subsidizing (or maintaining bases in) countries which are already capable of defending themselves (Japan, Israel, South Korea, some of Europe, etc.) We could save even more money if US military spending was closer to actually being “defense” spending, and reflected whatever genuine conventional threats there might be.
Not having high expectations for ourselves and others is a recipe for failure. And it pretty much explains the thread.
We as a society spend a great deal of money on people hell bent on low expectations.
The store I work at sells female condoms. However, they are NOT labeled as “female condoms”, they use some coy phrase I can’t remember off the top of my head. They are not with the other condoms, either, they’re with the douches and anti-vaginal fungal creams. Let’s just say the marketing and product placement really, really sucks, m’kay?
At least the sponge says “contraceptive sponge” on the box.
No, but I imagine it’s more likely to be returned in Scandinavia than in Somalia.
By the way, the former is vastly less religious than the latter, and I mention this because conservatives are always going on and on about “morality” being tied to religion, though as someone sagely noted, “morality” to conservatives means “not having sex.”