Regards,
Shodan
Now I’m wondering how they define “dating.” Can I go to dinner with my black friend? Can I go to her dorm room for a movie? Can I have sex with her if I’m not “dating” her?
Good point. Some conservative Christian churches distinguish “dating” from what they see as a more-appropriate “courtship” process. So perhaps you could argue, "I wasn’t dating her, I was courting her <3. Activities other than dating can’t, by definition, constitute “interracial dating”.
The difference between “dating” and “courtship” (which they commonly see as including parents as mediators and protectors, and which is not supposed to be for “fun”, but only for finding a spouse) is obviously great enough for some Christian writers and preachers to draw a difference, so I’m not sure how BJU would take an argument along that lines.
Sex before marriage is banned by Bob Jones. I am not sure about holding hands or kissing.
If they forbid interracial marriage, and “courtship” is only for the purpose of finding a spouse, then one would expect interracial courtship to be forbidden too.
If “dating” is for “fun” and not for finding a spouse, then why would interracial dating be banned? Because premarital “fun” is also banned, of course.
I’m doing a little reading and am surprised to learn that Bob Jones did not admit Black people as students(or, I assume, staff) until 1971.
Asians were always allowed as students.
It makes me wonder if the main problem was with Black people. For some reason.
So according to the Bible and the fundies, the three races are in fact rooted in three brothers of common parents.
So either they believe in evolution and hence ongoing evolution since Noah is the reason the races are different now, OR they believe there has been no evolution of races since then and therefore that Noah and his wife bore three kids each of different race ab initio.
I know Logic was never these idiots’ strong suit but Jeez!!
More likely, they use the word race in its earlier meaning, (the one from which our current usage was taken), to mean a group of people with a common ancestor. The physical characteristics that allow us to distinguish these groups are simply an accident. The supposed dark skin of the sons of Ham is associated with the sin of Ham, although there is not really any scriptural source for this claim.
So basically, there was no written out definition. Just “feeling” about what a race is.
Exactly the same as every other racist ideology, really.
Well, not really. The one drop rule is just one example of a black letter delineation of race, and there have been lots of others. If anything, the Bob Jones rule is unusual. You can read a bit about the purpose of the rule here (the short version seems to be that God separated the races to protect Jews or something.)
Do you need to wonder?
The USA, and particularly southern USA, more so than other places, some people seem to have a fetish for hating blacks, considering them subhuman, and wanting to keep them separate… and finding a justification for that in the bible.
But it’s “one drop” from a race that is defined in the first place as “we know it when we see it.”
It’s probably worth linking to the excellent 2005 Staff Report on how the story of Noah’s sons became identified with what we now think of as “racial boundaries”: What’s up with the biblical story of drunken Noah? (Part 2) (Part 1 is here, and describes the story of Ham in the bible and how it was originally interpreted by rabbinic authorities and early Christians.)
Not sure what this means.
I said all racism is based on a “feeling” of what race is.
You said no, that one-drop rules were based on more than a feeling.
But one drop of what? One drop of heritage from someone black, which was based on a “feeling” of what race is.
Are you saying the “one drop rule” is not based on any particular objective criteria? I agree. But it’s still a clear rule.
It’s “clear” but based on a feeling about who is black to start with. It doesn’t matter how far back you go, if the definition of who is black is always based on that gut reaction.
Ohhhh. I think I get you now. You’re referring to where the drop came from.
Right.
Sorry. Honestly, my brain is working at half speed today. I can’t seem to phrase anything in an easy way.