Do you feel it's important for younger generations to be able to read an analog clock? If so why?

This is a good illustration of what I meant about situational context. I’m assuming that in the example 330 represents a compass bearing and not relative. Because airplanes tend to move much faster than ships, I presume that relative bearings are not useful until it becomes “7 o’clock low”.

330 is a relative bearing. So 30 degrees off the port bow. 15 miles is about 45 seconds to co-located at combat speeds. And well within both parties’ weapons ranges depending on what they’re carrying.

At that range and angle off, the rate of bearing change is typically low enough to readily get everyone’s eyes and sensors cued in that direction well enough to do the next steps: decide if hostile, sort out who among us is shooting who among them, and get ordnance in the air before they do that to you. If possible.

If you’re not carrying radar-guided missiles, you need to start the positioning for an IR shot to their face followed by wrapping up into close-quarters dogfighting if needed.

Conceptually it’s not much different from subs or surface ships. It just occurs on very different time and distance scales.

Exactly what I was thinking. Thanks for providing more detail.

Going back to the original question, I would re-frame it as “Do you feel that teaching younger children to read an analog clock is beneficial?” and my answer is yes. There have been numerous studies that investigate the conceptual process differences between learning about time using digital clocks versus analog clocks and they all conclude that, while it can be more difficult to teach younger children to tell time using an analog clock, the process of learning to read an analog clock also involves learning a wider range of mathematical concepts. One such study is [html] Time as a Measure: Elementary Students Positioning the Hands of an Analog Clock| Journal of Numerical Cognition

As I was searching for a publicly accessible publication to link, I ran across this interesting study examining how well current AI tools can read analog clocks, [html] Lost in Time: Clock and Calendar Understanding Challenges in Multimodal LLMs and the answer is, not very. So another reason to teach children to read analog clocks is so they can boast that they’re smarter than AI.

A new Facebook thread to watch

It starts with a screenshot of this tweet

That’s sort of funny, even though I’m in the weird group that can read and write cursive (discrete skills, IMO), but struggles with an analog clock. :grin:

And while students aren’t required to learn cursive any more, either, I can tell you that a lot of them do, anyway, apparently just because they want to. One popular trend I’ve noticed among my students is to write big things like headers first in wide cursive using a pen, and then in block letters on top of that using a highlighter.

I just moved the discussion about “what is a spreadsheet” our of this thread, as it has gotten to be over 20 posts kind and was somewhat tangential to the topics here, which are more about what it makes sense to teach school kids.