Do you have to be offended by personal insults for them to count

I already know how that one comes out. Anybody can call me any damn thing in any forum here without getting a warning. It helps if they are smart enough to post an immediate “oopsie, thought this was the pit”, but doesn’t really matter.

It’s too bad your actions leave it open to that interpretation. Rand Rover isn’t exactly my favorite poster, either. I lit into him not so long ago about something he said about Dio, and Dio ain’t my favorite, either. Fair is fair, and I call em like I see em.

Here, we have a generally inoffensive lefty poking a widely disliked righty with a stick. His ploy is successful, the righty responds in self defense, and as a bonus, you hammer the righty. Lefty ewoks celebrate.

I’ll concede that probably was not your intent. But the effect is the same. If you’re gonna throw the flag on only one side, you should throw it on the one that provoked the response. A better answer is offsetting penalties, as I’ve said before.

No. A statement specific to me, ie, “Let’s raise Oak’s taxes” is most insulting.

A statement not specific to me, such as “Let’s raise taxes on people that make over X amount per year”, which would have the effect of raising my taxes, is poor policy and obviously unwise, but not insulting.

It may be annoying, but it is not a direct personal insult.

I say it is. That ain’t gonna change. I’ll note that you disagree, and your vote counts more than mine does.

I was thinking of suggesting we create a new forum devoted entirely to petty melodrama, but I guess it would be redundant.

How about “Let’s rape [poster x]”? Is that a direct personal insult?

I like Rand Rover’s posts and I wasn’t trying to be malicious with that. Like I said, its no different in my mind than if I had told someone who I knew was deeply religious if they wanted to come out to the woods and join a satanic ritual.

No, it’s not.

This is pure sophistry. I said that Wesley Clark is violent. Fear Itself said that I support the wealthy exploiting the poor. The two statements are absolutely equivalent as far as being a personal insult in GD or not.

No, but in my opinion, I would warn the poster who said that for being a jerk.

By the logic in this thread, I predict “no”.

But it might cross the line of the “jerk” rule. Does the post in question in this thread cross the line of the “jerk” rule? No one has asked. Perhaps that would be a difference between the two.

ETA: beaten to the punch.

OK, no hard feelings Wesley.

If you did that in person, with a smile or other “I don’t really mean it, ya big lug” vibe, then the recipient probably wouldn’t take offense. On a message board, without non-verbal cues, it can be offensive. It could be read as “Let’s all mock Rand Rover”. Which you can do, in the Pit, but not in GD.

Are you seriously suggesting that raising someone’s taxes is equivalent to rape?

OK, my head just exploded.

WTF?

How is “Let’s rape Poster X” not a personal insult of Poster X? You’re calling for him to be violently assaulted in the most personal way possible. You are saying he is a person who deserves such vile treatment. You are insulting him.

Thanks, sorry on my part too if things came across as malicious.

There. Rand & Wesley made nice. Now, Marley, just retract the warning, and we’re done here.

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought from other threads you are an attorney. If so, you really don’t see the rationale?

The real question RR is asking is, is any sentence of the form “Let’s [verb] [Poster Y]” an insult?

The answer seems to be that it might not be jerk-free (hard to argue) but not an insult.

Rephrase the invite to “[Poster y], you deserve to be [X’d]” and I bet it become an insult.

Mods, how about it: “[Poster Y], you deserve to be raped”? Insult?

Not sure what my job has to do with the price of tea in China in this thread.

I say “let’s [verb] [Poster Y]” is an insult, unless it’s one of those “Let’s help out Doper X for situation Y” mod-approved things or something similar…

That’s arguing form over substance. In both cases, the intent is to insult Poster Y. “Let’s [verb] {Poster Y}” = “{Poster Y}, you deserve to be [verbed]”

. Our work here is done… :smiley:

Counselor–

“let’s rape poster x.” Your honor, my client merely made a suggestion to his fellow idiots. He didn’t insult the poster X, he merely made a declarative statement.

“let’s rape poster x, who is a douchbag.” Your honor, my client indeed insulted [del]the douchebag[/del] poster named x, and wishes to throw himself on the mercy of the court.