Personal insults?

In this threadI made several disparaging comments about FinnAgain’s posts in GD. I specifically tried to comment on his posts and not on him.

TubaDiva has said that I have hurled lots of personal insults. I disagree.

So my question is, did I make personal insults or did I attack the posts and not the poster?

From the linked thread:

This, e.g., is certainly a personal insult. You claimed that kind of comment is common in GD. If so, it shouldn’t be. If reported, I suspect there would be official intervention.

I was surprised that you received “Further action may well be pending” as opposed to “Don’t do it again,” but I don’t know what your history of infractions and warnings might be.

Of course, I’m not a mod, so my opinion is nothing more than my opinion.

Here’s an exampleof the “reading comprehension” comments in GD.

And here’s tomndebb’s commentson a similar post:

Geez, first mswas, now leander.

My remarks to mswas apparently made no difference to him at all. Nevertheless -

leander, you know perfectly well that tomndebb has never been wrong, is not wrong now, and never will be wrong, world without end. amen.

If you are looking for a detailed explanation, you won’t get it. If you are attempting self-immolatioin, well, good luck and save me a marshmallow.

Regards,
Shodan

I was assuming that the “personal insults” were regarding FinnAgain not tomndebb, though of course with the vague comment from TubaDiva it’s hard to tell.

Color me confused. :confused:

Well, that certainly gives mixed signals. It may be a rule violation, but it may not be. And it’s not exactly a warning, but sort of a pre-warning warning. But it is official action of some sort, and it does indicate that such cracks are considered bad form.

As I’ve opined in the thread in question, that post clearly contains a personal insult.

I love this pattern, not unusual around here:

When have I ever done that??

Oh, ok, but someone else did it and got away with it!! :dubious:

Oh come on. I conceded in the oringal thread that my “reading comprehension” comment was the only thing *close *to a personal insult, and even the mods are not sure if it is (see tomndebb’s post above).

And even you have agreed that this is a far cry from “filled with your personal insults to people”.

(Frankly I think I just pissed off TubaDiva by pointing out her ignorance in the Atalaya thread.)

From your first post, it looked like you were soliciting others’ opinions. Then you wanted to argue with them. Now it looks like you want to continue old arguments - and we haven’t even reached post #10!

What I saw was a mod saying that a behavior might be over the line and admonishing a poster not to do it again. It does not establish that such comments are acceptable - quite the opposite, in fact. It might truly be inconsistent modding. So what? “Everyone else was speeding!” will not get you out of a ticket. But it might be that the mod noted that the poster’s transgression was preceded and followed by posts that did not contain personal insults, which might have earned him some clemency. Compare:

Comments such as “usual frothing at the mouth nasty tone and attitude” and “typical spittle flecked rants” are personal insults, not related to a specific post or thread. Are you really going to say they weren’t intended to be personally insulting?

You’re right - I was soliciting opinions. I disagree with yours - all those posts you quoted were specifically (and deliberately) pointed at his posts and not his personality. (In fact, I noted that I think he’s probably a smart fellow.)

In any event, I respect your opinion even if I disagree with it.

I guess I’m confused about how a post (rather than a poster) can “froth at the mouth.” Seems to me that’s pretty clearly a comment about a poster rather than a post.

In any case, you were certainly stereotyping a poster’s type of posts. Note the difference between:
ACCEPTABLE: Your post #42 in this thread is mere ranting.
NOT ACCEPTABLE: You are ranting yet again, as you always do.

The mods will certainly agree that sometimes there’s a fuzzy line between personal insult and derisive debate. And there is certainly sometimes “uneven” moderation, for a variety of reasons – not least of which is whether someone reports an offense. The speeding ticket is a reasonable analogy. Some people, some times, get away with something that someone else gets caught at. That’s life. We’d prefer that it not happen that way, we’d prefer every crime was caught, but we as mods are neither omniscient nor ominpresent.

Fair enough. I retract those comments and shall in the future try to be clearer about attacking the posts and not the poster.

I’m still unclear about the “people” I have insulted (save for FinnAgain), so I don’t really know who or what else Tuba was referencing.

Where’s the “fuzzy line” in this post?

And the Mod just shrugged his shoulders and said “No warning issued.” Wha?

I don’t know the context, but I would assume something that over-the-top was actually a joke. Still, a smiley would have helped.

Don’t people know the difference between the nominative and genitive cases anymore? What the hell are they teaching in schools?

Because of who it’s aimed at.

Regards,
Shodan

context would help…

Here’s the context (post 94). It’s in the pit, which pretty much does away with any “fuzzy line” factor as regards personal insults. Gfactor’s note was regarding wishing death on a poster, not insults.

I think you meant post 95.

Yes I did. Thanks.