Why should I (or anyone) have to go hide behind the teacher’s skirt? Rattle my cage, and you oughta get bit if I’m in a biting mood. Obviously, I don’t do that often here. Never had a warning. I generally don’t break many rules. Doesn’t mean I agree with them. Also doesn’t mean I won’t express my displeasure with bad calls, worse interpretations, and tortured logic from time to time. This happens to be one of those times. If this annoys you, I’ve started a much more whimsical thread in MPSIMS you may enjoy.
I’ve weighed in on your side in this thread, but i believe you are mischaracterizing the situation here.
You did not only call him “violent,” you also called him “[not] man enough.” For me, the second part was more of a personal insult than the first.
You questioned Wesley Clarks’ manhood. I characterized your economic philosphy. The former is a personal insult. The latter is commentary about your position.
You claimed raising taxes was equivalent to rape. I guess that shows your grasp of what an equivalency is.
So bite and accept the inevitable warning and move on. No one is saying it is a bannable offense. If you are not ready to move on after that, take it to the Pit. That’s my advice which I am sure is worth what you paid for it 
Just to be clear, here. You are advocating that posters should have the right to insult others, as long as they were provoked in some way before?
Sorry, isn’t going to happen.
As has been explained previously, they are not equivalent.
I know it’s not going to happen. And it’s a candy assed rule. Guy that throws the first punch is the bad guy. Principle is the same whether the punch is physical or verbal.
Rand Rover threw the first punch.
No. Wesley Clark threw the first punch. There was no good faith reason to call Rand out by name in the OP. Rand countered with a stiff jab. Fair fight, both equally culpable. Except that the official ruling is that what** Rand** did was much worse than what Wesley did. Even though Wesley has since made nice with Rand, and started this thread to request the warning be reconsidered. I say again, both guys should get the same sanction…and that sanction should be knock it off/no warning issued. Bad call.
I read this entire thread. I don’t think calling out another poster in a GD thread is fair game. I think both posters should have been told to ‘knock it off’ without any warnings given. I think the Mods that contributed to this thread are being intentionally obtuse and splitting hairs to warn a conservative poster while completely ignoring a much less conservative poster’s obvious and personal jab.
The entirety of the Mods argument can be summed up with: We don’t know what the meaning of ‘is’ is, but we will fight to the death to defend our collective ignorance.
I don’t think Wesley Clark is funny. I think what Wesley calls humor is just a thinly veiled excuse to be ugly to people whose views he doesn’t agree with or understand.
I don’t know, after reading this thread, if any of my statements are insults or not. They weren’t meant to be insults, merely descriptions.
You’re right that they aren’t equivalent. But the only unequivalency is that I am espousing a fiscally conservative view whereas Fear Itself is espousing a fiscally liberal view. Also, I said “you” and Fear Itself just used more words to say “you.”
Really? ‘He started it’, is the best you got? This line of reasoning makes your whole viewpoint seem lame, to my mind.
Provoked or not you are still responsible for your actions and words, even in the schoolyard. Someone else’s words, no matter how inflammatory, don’t ‘make’ you do anything. You control how you respond, to anything. Choose to cast an insult, take the hit.
Then why are the ‘N word’ and the ‘C word’ banned from this site?
No words are banned from this site.
A more accurate (yet still inaccurate) equivalency would be;
“If I’m walking down the street, and some guy I’ve argued with before says that ‘I believe this guy helps the rich at the expense of the average Joe Public’ I am entitled to accuse him of assault.”
Or given your use of hyperbole “If I’m walking down the street and some random person punches me, I’m entitled to shoot him. I hope a cop walks by.”
Bollocks. The OP didn’t keep "whaling on"Rand. He made an off colour joke at his expense. AND RECEIVED A MOD NOTE FOR IT. If **Rand **was really insulted by that post he could have reported it. Or is asking the mods to deal with this akin to relying on the goverment?
The Mods have acknowledged that the OP crossed a line and required/received a Mod note. That does not excuse Rand’s reply. I suppose (as it was in GD) if Rand could cite the OP’s violent personality, then it would become a statement of fact, rather than an insult.
I can see you asking "Well why didn’t the mods warn the OP before Rand. Well was his post reported before then? Was it reported?
There is a structure of authority in place here. Use it. Or is that a (US) liberal way of thinking? I don’t know is this one of those situations where authority is good, but only where it agrees with me?
Are you really saying “Annoy me, and I’ll smack you one?” You can’t ‘rattle’ them back? Are your arguments that shallow? Again with the hyperbole. Surely you can simply refute, counter or reply in kind.
Then please explain where and how I can use these words. (Not that I want to, I’m just curious - because the parsing of instances where certain words or thoughts or phrases can be used as expressed in this thread is incredibly nonsensical).
Just to test my board knowledge: You can say cunt but you can’t call someone a cunt- not even in the pit. No clue on nigger.
Acceptable:
Unacceptable (i hope):
If anyone needs the differences explained to them, or needs to be told why the first group would be acceptable and the second would not, i submit they’re probably not smart enough to be on the internet.
Clockwork,
Can I call myself a cunt? Can I call myself a nigger? (I hate even saying those words, but I’m trying to make a point.) I know this is silly, but this whole thread and the Mod’s decision to punish one, but not the other is beyond silly. Not to mention the Mod’s mental gymnastics to explain their decision…
No clue.
If you know me from my rants about language in other threads, you know that I don’t think there should be any restrictions on language.