Lib check out Halogen’s posts at the end of page 6 on the GD thread. I assume that this is a good example of what ToF and other’s mean by scum.
A willfully ignorant prick who gladly will deny the horror of the final solution. I’ve no issue with that sort of fucker being called scum. If enough of these scared little people ever got power you’d be official scum and treated as such. They wouldn’t be asking for people to treat you with a certain respect.
This is a message board it isn’t real life. They already live in a society were their rights are assured. I don’t really give a fuck about treating people with respect when they have not shown one reason why I should give them any form of respect at all.
“They want to eliminate all of us. They hate us. They’re denialists who refuse even to acknowledge our suffering and oppression. I don’t see why they deserve any respect. They’re foolish ignorant and hateful people. They’re just scum.”
You’re in some kind of denial Lib, there is a huge difference. They say outright that they want to do all the things that must make one draw the conclusion that they are scum. While they imagine that the people they call scum would have done, or will do something. I’ll exemplify:
Without claiming that my way is the only way, or that there hasn’t been good points made for moderation, I also note that our friend the-incandescent-light-of-stupidity is busy melting down so completely after my 11 questions post that every marginally sane reader will have no doubt that he is indeed a neo-Nazi and out of his mind. When faced with my mild provocation he did as I predicted, and started gloating over the fact that he is the hateful little intelectual shrimp that he is. That’s how you show what vermin they are.
And I cry “Bullshit” if they’re saying that. NO-ONE wants to “eliminate” them. NO-ONE is proposing a “final solution” for them. The fact is, they’re delusional and I’m not.
You keep saying that we sound just like them,but you’re objectively wrong. They DO in fact want to kill me and my family. NO-ONE wants to kill them. If a delusional person, standing firm on the ground starts screaming that he’s going to fall and break his neck and someone on a shakey ladder starts screaming the same thing, even though they’re saying the same words, only one of them is describing the reality of the situation.
Lib, all cries of “they want to get me” aren’t equal. SHOW me an organized political party who’s sole goal is to exterminate them like their “American Nazi Party” is built around the idea that they want to exterminate me and I’ll start giving them some creedence. Hell, even if I accept their drivel at face value, they’re not even CLAIMING that people are trying to exterminate them: at best they’re saying that they’re going to end up as a minority in “their own country”. Which is self-evidently stupid, completely implausible. but even if I grant it, it’s hardly the same thing.
I’m talking about how they are treated on a message board for fuck sake. They have all their rights in place IRL and on this board BTW. They are posting their POV aren’t they? Do I think that any of their rights should be removed? Do I fuck. I live in a world were real wrongs are visited on people because of real reasons not a world of conspiracies and vile racism and ignorance.
You’re moaning about how people aren’t living up to you in arguing with them. Get over yourself.
Lib, I don’t know what fantasy world you live in, but Fascism is dangerous and has no place in a civilised society. It exists solely to wipe out opposition and solely benefit its supporters. I cannot in good concience tolerate any form of Hate speech. they can cry repression all they want, but in reality they have never been repressed.
Please top trying to equate my comments with those from the Neo Nazis. I am not becoming a monster.
If someone with whom I have no quarrel and to whom I have done no injury steps up to me and says “I’m going to kill you”, I would be fully within my rights to say the same words back to him.
Furthermore, if I had reason to believe that he had both the intent and ability to carry out his threat, I would walk up to him and shoot him in the head and consider myself guilty of no crime or transgression in the eyes of God or man.
That’s why I dopped out of the GD threads. I don’t argue with the dead.
I can appreciate that, Alessan. I have my own world, a world in which a thriving people were conquered by disease, tyranny, and good intentions. We were subhuman. Savages, in fact. You and I are kindred spirits I would think, both of us having ancestors who were herded like cattle into boxcars of death.
And as much as I would like to join them in their tauntfest so I could call them swine, I don’t think Tu Quoque wins debates. I would rather that they call for my extermination while I call for their edification. That way, no one can call me savage.
I come from the same world as Libertarian. My hubby comes from a world where even liberals think of his people as being sub-human, as a plague, as vermin.
I hate to think what the nazis would want to do to our Cherokee/Romani children if we can ever have them.
To hijack a little - Libertarian, my husband asks what you think of the Cherokee author Wade Churchill?
Provocative. Inspiring. Insightful. I love him. It was from him that I learned that Indian Hater Jackson had horse bridles made from Indian skin, and that he bragged that he never met an Indian he didn’t kill.
Speaking of White Nationalism, Churchill also made a compelling case that Hitler drew inspiration for his Lebensraumpolitik from the European conquering of Indian land.
It was in an interview that was reprinted in Z Magazine in December 1995. He covers a lot of what was in Since the Predator Came.
I see that I had recalled the word “fought” as “met”. I presume that you will seize this opportunity to accuse me of revisionism and lies. Would you like to throw me onto a wagon and hall me away?
If you mis-state the historical record on this subject (as you have done repreatedly, and in several threads), then I will call you on it. Call that “stalking” if you will.
This is a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, not spreading propaganda.
Yeah, Sionnach had also informed me that the winner writes the history. Maybe history is more complex than your narrow mind will allow. I have my sources that hold a different point of view from you and the Indian Hater.
I gave you a cite for the evidence you demanded. Now, get the hell off my back.
Well, yes, Ward Churchill has “a different point of view” as you say. Here, he calls the victims of the World Trade Center attack “little Eichmanns.”
He deals so heavily in the language of propaganda that I’d take his word on history with a grain of salt, and ask to see primary sources for his extraordinary claims about Jackson.
