Or maybe there’s a Doper who thinks so?
I don’t know a soul who believes he didn’t do the crime.
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At the time, I had plenty of black friends who thought he was innocent.
Of those black people that I still know, they have since changed their opinion.
I’m Caucasian, and the one person who told me that they thought he didn’t do it is too. This man believed that his son did it.
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I agreed with the jury verdict. The state just didn’t prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. The timeline is narrowly defined from when he was with Kato getting hamburgers and when he was picked up by the limo driver. I can’t recall how long it was. The state tried stretching it out as long as possible. Maybe 40 or 50 minutes?
These are my 20 year old memories of watching the trial… The state had a big poster board exhibit with the timeline. I wish that was available today. It fixes all these time very precisely.
Kato left OJ’s bronco with his burger around 9:30 to 9:40. Thats when the gap in OJ alibi begins.
Nicole was on the phone with her mom around 9:45 to 9:50pm. The state theorized she was killed around 10:15pm. Simpson was in his limo heading to the airport by 10:50 to 10:55pm.
I recall the witnesses saying it was a 10 to 15 minute drive to her condo. A minimum 20 minute trip. You add in time he needed to change his bloody clothes and clean up any mess in his bronco and at his house. Its just seems like too little time.
Could he have done it? Sure. If he ran every red light and drove like a speed demon. Jumped out of the car and went Rambo on those two people. Rushed back home.
There is reasonable doubt. This wasn’t a hard case for the jury to decide.
I do agree that somehow that guy did do it. I just don’t know how.
Today, that hamburger place would have surveillance footage of OJ and Kato in the drive thru lane. Setting the time precisely.
They didn’t have that available in 1994. It was always a estimate when the burger run occurred. It might have been at 9pm instead of 9:20. Giving OJ more time to commit the crime.
The state had a timeline for Kato too. He was on his phone with his gf when the crime occurred.
I think the most likely explanation is OJ hired someone to kill Nicole. He setup a half ass alibi for himself. Thinking he wouldn’t be accused.
The 30 for 30 episode “June 17, 1994” is mostly, but not entirely about the OJ chase (it’s also about all the other happenings in the world of sports that day, which was unusually eventful). While any documentary can be skewed, it’s hard to watch that and hear the statements that came from the vehicle on the run and come to the conclusion that they are anything but that of a guilty, remorseful man who is about to kill himself.
I agree. Simpson’s own actions that day during the bronco chase convinced me that he was guilty. He was emotionally shattered by his horrific crime. Killing someone with a knife is bloody and very personal. Nicole was almost beheaded. Goldman put up a desperate fight. It took multiple stab wounds to put him down. That had to shake up OJ.
I always thought he was very serious about committing suicide in that bronco. He chickened out at the last minute.
Having been at Robert Kardashian’s house, a few years after the murder, I know where he might have hidden the notorious valise that contained evidence, if he did take it and hide it. A wood panelled office room had a wall that opened to another small space if you knew where to tap it. It was invisible to see unless you were told. Also, under the cter stairs was the same kind of thing…a hidden space under the stairs behind panelling. Very strange.
And OJ feeling shaken up or guilty afterwards? I doubt it. Was he contemplating suicide? I doubt that too. He was an actor and maybe also a narcissist.
We have a friend who is otherwise rational, but she believes OJ was framed. We don’t talk about it.
This is a bit off topic, but my conclusion is that they framed a guilty man.
When the verdict was announced I had coworkers who cheered.
I’ve never personally been convinced of his guilt.
First, let me say I got so disgusted with this whole thing that I boycotted any news program/paper that was talking about it. I was probably one of the least informed people about this trial.
I do remember my joyous ‘whooop’ when I heard that there was a verdict. I didn’t care what it was, just that it meant the circus would leave town!
Never met any of them, never been to their city so I don’t know the area. Just. Didn’t. Care.
That being said, junior has the same (remember this was 1994) DNA & if Dad goes to jail, who gets his millions? I don’t think OJ would’ve been stoopit enough to leave one glove at the scene & one in his possession; at least put it in your garbage or better yet, take it with you & dump it at the airport. I didn’t think he did it, but, “meh” didn’t care either.
I realize you started this post off by saying you really didn’t know anything about the case, but just for the record… OJ’s son was 6 years old at the time of the murders.
OJ had an adult son too (with his 1st wife). A former college football player. Jason was the guy pleading with OJ in the driveway, at the end of the Bronco chase.
I personally don’t give much attention to the killer son theory. But its been around awhile and some like it.
Ah, I somehow didn’t know that!
I have a theory that somewhere along the way, OJ just mentally snapped, and he went and killed them in some kind of psychotic altered state of consciousness, and then didn’t know it afterward. I though that could explain his bizarre behavior.
Or possibly what you suggest here – that he was so traumatized himself by what he had just done, that he snapped afterwards, and didn’t know what he had done. I hadn’t thought of that idea before. I kinda think my idea (that he snapped first) sounds more plausible.
Either way, it’s incompatible with any theory that he somehow hired or otherwise induced someone else to kill them on his behalf.
I think there were plenty of signs before hand that he could do it because of the lack of responses to NBS 911 calls. And there were plenty of them.
I don’t know anyone who cares whether O.J was innocent.
I was in middle school at the time, but I do remember plenty of people that thought he was innocent and the breakdown wasn’t along racial lines. For instance, my dad believed it was likely a mafia hit and that, it wasn’t Nicole they were after, but Ron Goldman, so it was actually her that was the incidental murder rather than him. As for my opinion, I was a little too young to really have a solid opinion either way or even care, really; and considering my dad thought that he was innocent, I pretty much leaned that way.
That all said, the concensus these days, when it does come up, is that I don’t think I know anyone that thinks he’s innocent, but I also don’t know anyone that thinks the verdict was incorrect. The state was just incompetent in building their case and left plenty of room for reasonable doubt, and his defense did a good job muddying the waters with accusations of racism and turned it as much into a trial of Fuhrman.
But that said, his actions in the Bronco, the trial itself, and the civil suit had him pretty well damned in the court of public opinion. And considering all the stuff he’s done since, most notably the whole “If I Did It…” book and subsequent crimes for which he was convicted, I think he’s managed to alienate all but his most diehard supporters.
And, really, quite frankly, I think it just makes the most sense, seeing that he was such a brilliant athlete and so beloved, and how sharply things changed, I think the idea that he just kind of snapped and then was shocked with how he behaved and went on a downward spiral just seems more consistent than that he was either secretly always a horrible person or was the victim of an elaborate attempt to be framed. Speaking for myself, if I did find myself in such a situation, believing myself incapable of murder, but yet having done so, I expect I’d contemplate suicide and go on a downward spiral too.