Do you think this Presidency has been the U.S.A's worst ever!?

Oh, Holy Shit!

I completely missread AvhHines post, she was, in fact, heaping scorn on a position not her own! Wrong, wrong, and again, wrong. Mea shitwit

I go now to the river, to perform the Ancient Tasmanian Ritual of Self-Abasement, accompanied by a Chorus of Bitter Virgins, intoning dirges of Woe and Humiliation!

I notice the idiot again ignored the questions put to him.

Why is that milroyj?

Nah, I’m not worried about evil people patronizing me, but heaven help those who fall into the clutches of the Nanny State. The Nanny State will happily tell you where to live, what to eat, where you can go to school, how to raise your kids, and even how fast you can drive. (and don’t forget to wear your seatbelt :rolleyes: )

No, thanks.

[Greta Garbo]I vant to be left alone[/Greta Garbo]

Sorry I don’t post on your schedule. :dubious:

I work for a pharmacutical company. My beliefs on health care really require a whoe different thread. Trust me, I know plenty about the plague, I minored in Medieval Studies. :cool:

I think most everybody is in a position to get a good education in this country, but many don’t take advantage of it. Or help their kids take advantage of it.

And they are the ones that paid and pay the most. Maybe a few less subsidies might seperate the wheat from the chaff.

Uhhh, I’m not a libertarian nor do I have dreams of such. At least none where I was wearing pants.

Grand Inquisitor? Sheesh, must everyone go off the deep end? Are you sure that milroyj’s or my belief is “how dare you take any of my money”? Are you positive? I’m sure you’d never jump to conclusions.

Your driving speed affects me. As does your death, if I am involved in an accident with you and you die because you weren’t wearing your seatbelt. Sorry, milroy, but those aren’t your own private business; they impact everyone on the road.

Yeah, I’ve noticed how much the Dems want to peek into your bedroom, or tell you how to worship, or demand that you live in a racially divided neighborhood. While the current administration, of course, has no interest in prying into your personal affairs. Unless, of course, you are interested in anything that doesn’t reflect Christian right “family values.” But such people don’t deserve rights anyway, right?

But hey, no right is as important as hanging on to every penny, is it?

Hey, elucidator, instead of spending time with Bitter Virgins, how about helping me out here?

Assuming a schedule, when do you plan to answer Post #49 from page 1, milroyj? Or may we take it that your plan is just to throw out unsubstantiated conclusions and then retreat back into the bushes (ha! A joke?).

We can certainly count on milroyj to remain true to form. If you look up the phrase, “a foolish consistency,” there’s a picture of milroyj.

He’s not haughtily refusing to address the questions others have put to him. He’s just stuck for an answer.

The essence of conservative philosophy is this: Social programs in Iraq are good. Corporate welfare and lucrative contracts for corporations are good. Social programs in our own country is evil theft of our hard earned tax dollars.

Um, how does my death without a seatbelt affect you?

The Left would rather that no one worship at all. Invisible Pink Unicorns, etc. And it was the Left who forced people into public housing like Cabrini-Green in Chicago. Truly deplorable conditions for the last 40 years. We, as a nation, treat dogs and cats better than that. Now they say it was a “failed social experiment”. I’m betting that the poor people involved didn’t want to be experimented on in the first place. As far as the Christian right goes, I’m not part of that group, so your comment is irrelevant.

Your death due to lack of seatbelt causes me psychological trauma that I would not otherwise have, for starters. And if, heaven forbid, the accident was my fault, my liability becomes far worse. But the guilt, the anguish of being the agent of another person’s death, would apply regardless of whether or not it was actually my fault.

Individual Democrats have every bit as much right to question Deism (via IPUs or any other mechanism) as you have to believe in it. I have yet to see a Democrat attempt to legislate the nation into atheism, and I think you know it. What civil libertarians of all stripes want to do is to avoid any suggestion or implication of a state religion. Oddly enough, we don’t want the government to tell anyone what to believe, whether or not they might agree with us. Funny how little that seems to bother someone who fears the so-called Nanny-state.

No one claims perfection on the part of Dems or the left wing. What we do claim is an honest effort to create a humane society for all our citizens, including those who were stupid enough to have poor parents and receive a lousy education. We don’t always succeed. But we try.

He isn’t going to answer, is he?

I move that the witness be instructed to answer the question or that he be excused and his testimony stricken.

“If it grease the Court, I move that the subpenis be squished, on grounds that he is incomparable, irreverent, and dematerialized, and Milroyj be ruled a hostile witless.”

“I’ll allow it”

No, I’d like to hear form Milroyj. It does no good preaching to the choir. I want to convince or be convinced. I’d like him to explain to me how growing a pair would help a poor single mother who already works as hard as she can to get ahead. I’d like to hear him explain what Clinton should have done to prevent 9/11, or for that matter, how President Bush has helped us be safer, because from where I sit, we’ve eliminated a toothless enemy and created thousands of enthusiastic new potential suicide bombers. I’d like to hear him explain to me how Ashcroft is protecting his civil liberties, while Kerry threatens to take them away.

I’d like someone, anyone, to explain to me how a loving, compassionate person would prefer to see the richest people in the country get a huge reduction in taxes to seeing poor people get some extra help for their kids. Because I know some truly good, selfless conservatives. And unless they are so naive as to believe that hard work is all that it takes, and that the turnaround can come any time in a life, I don’t understand how they reconcile their politics with their morality. Seriously. I’m not trying to bite here. I want to know.

Your trauma, anguish, and liability would be totally avoided if you didn’t hit my car in the first place.

And that’s rather the point. Take care of your own business, instead of trying to foist it off on the rest of us.

Pray tell, what question would you like me to answer?

No, they wouldn’t, if you hit me. And since you may be driving at 90 MPH (in milroyj world), that’s actually the liklier scenario. Or don’t you understand that I could be anguished by your death even though the accident wasn’t my fault?

So in other words, I should wear a seatbelt so your feelings don’t get hurt? :rolleyes:

Let’s see. Buckling up each time you drive, or I get to suffer from having killed you the rest of my life? Yes, if you consider the anguish and trauma being involved in the death of another person, no matter how blameless (can’t you imagine the sleepless nights of ‘what could I have done differently? Am I really to blame no matter how fast he was going?’), to be ‘getting my feelings hurt.’

Or to put it in economic terms, since those seem to have greater appeal to you, your injuries are highly likely to be more severe if you aren’t wearing a seat belt. As a result, you cause my insurance rates to increase significantly.

Actually, I don’t give a flying f* about your anguish, or your insurance rates. Nice try to deflect blame onto the victim, and away from yourself, but I’m not buying.