Coming up in half an hour, review thread open as I’ve belatedly realised our American cousins will be seeing this just a fortnight behind us.
Exciting or heralding the return of all sorts of characters you never wanted to see again 
Why start a review thread before the programme has been shown? 
I thought it was a little ‘meh’ to be honest. There were just too many characters and not enough time. The whole ‘The Bees are disappearing’ thread was disappointingly resolved.
Next week should be better.
I was convinced that Rose was going to die during their extended, slow-motion greeting. I was a little surprised. Not sure what’s going to happen there. I’m sure we would have found out if there was going to be a major change in the cast though…
If they can solve this without another Deus Ex Machina or a reset switch then I’ll be impressed and pleased.
An awful lot of build-up, but where is K9?
I enjoyed it (except for the overuse of the Daleks),
I was particularly surprised about:
the Doctor being “exterminated” and needing to regenerate. They managed to keep that pretty quiet. I was looking for spoilers prior to the episode and didn’t find anthing to suggest that Tennant might be leaving, quite a shock
I agree that there were too many characters, but the way things ended up there will probably be a lot less to worry about in the next episode.
Don’t want to wait a week, but have no choice.
I thought the resurrected Davros was very well done, although the whole “Dalek Caan travelled though time” bit was a little naff. If the Daleks can do it, then the Doctor should be able to rescue the whole of Gallifrey, particularly as Time Lord tech is supposedly much better than Dalek.
I shall look forward to the next episode.
I don’t know but, here we are, the programme has been broadcast and the thread is still here! So, I guess we may as well share our thoughts 
I was as taken aback as I was when I mistakenly thought James May was leaving Top Gear.
A subtle twist too when we’re told the Doctor’s most faithful companion would be the one dying, it sort of throws the choice out there a little.
I thought it was funny that the Time War is locked, made it sound like a forum that only hard core Whovians could log into 
But apart from all that the return of Davros was well done, especially the wonderfully logical way in which he grows more Kaleds for the Dalek shells.
The humour in the episode was nice too, Donna’s grandad not getting a webcam because they’re naughty and even the Dalek’s know that the late Harriet Jones was ex-PM 
Do we really need to use spoiler boxes about the unexpected regeneration? The episode has already been aired, and to me it was the most unexpected and interesting part.
Oh, and I don’t believe for a moment that Harriet Jones is dead.
In fact, I suspect that she will win by a landslide again in the next general election
I suppose spoilers are unnecessary, makes me wonder if its worth spoilering because of River Song’s line in “Forest of the Dead” about recognising the Doctor from when he was older. Did she know about regenerations or did the Doctor live a long time in this generation?
Repairing the blackhole created by the LHC at CERN. I’m serious.
You’d know that if you’d seen The Sarah Jane Adventures on CBBC.
River seemed to come from a looonnnngggg way off in his future, and I took it that her doctor was a different incarnation. She was shocked at how young he was, aged only 900-odds.
Well, if we’re talking about it openly, there’s no way we’re going to see a full regeneration. For one thing, Doctor Who is being shown as a series of specials next year rather than as a full-blown season specifically because David Tennant is working on some other projects.
The Dalek hit him only partially, as we only caught a glimpse of one side of his skeleton, rather than the usual full X-ray effect and vaporisation. There was also a gratuitous shot of his previously severed hand right beside the Tardis console at the opening of the episode. What are the odds that it’ll be used to somehow save his life during the regeneration process?
And I like Harriet Jones. I just don’t want her to be dead. I’d vote for her!
Yes, because it hasn’t been shown around the world yet. There may even be British dopers that have recorded it for later viewing, who would get upset if you give it away.
So, lets keep major plot twists spoilered for the moment.
Any speculation about Martha’s Osterhagen key? what do you think that means? Do you think it significant that it’s an anagram of Earth’s Gone.
Yes, probably. Mister Saxon was an anagram of Master No. Six, so I wouldn’t put it past RTD.
Potential spoiler for the next episode:
Apparently Peter Davison and Sylvester McCoy have been seen in their respective Doctor costumes on the Who set, so may show up in the next episode
[spoiler] Dalek Caan called him the threefold man. I was thinking that he might regenerate into his former self, owing to the time effect, then back again. I thought that it might be Christopher Ecclestone, though.
Peter Davison’s being seen might have been from the Children In Need mini-episode[/spoiler]
A bit of idle speculation here, but the woman at the Shadow Proclamation suggested that Donna still has “something on her back”. I expect that RTD will do another of his changing time so it never really happened tricks.
:smack: That was the whole reason for me starting the thread early, so nobody would get an accidental preview. I was chastised on another forum for revealing something big a bit too early thinking Americans were simply using torrents or Youtube to see the episodes, not realising you get it on Sci Fi. On the other hand, what else can you expect from a review thread save spoilers? 
Probably, there’s been a lack of such coincidences on the show this season compared to previous ones, we should expect something like this I guess.
Did she say “has” or “had” something on her back?
She said “There was something on your back.”
I had a feeling the episode was a bit bogged down by trotting out the whole Whoverse Who’s Who, and I had a strange Captain Planet flashback when they combined their powers to call the Doctor. Seemed a bit obvious that Davies was going for the ‘OMG look! It’s Torchwood/Unit/Sarah Jane/Davros’-factor, but I can’t say it didn’t work to some degree. 
Still, despite feeling a little crammed, I thought it was an enjoyable episode, and it certainly has me excited for next week. I just hope there’ll be no ‘now everybody think of the Doctor!’-kind of resolution, or some ‘it never really happened’ deus ex machina.
So we have the “Mr Copper Foundation”, the “Osterhagen Key”, two different kinds of teleportation device, the hyperactive hand in the TARDIS, the fact that the Doctor was only hit on one side, i.e. only one heart was affected, and that Donna seems to have some kind of terminal destiny. Torchwood, Sarah Jane Smith, Martha Jones and UNIT, and Rose Tyler (and all her friends and family back in her dimension maybe?) .
Davros is using his own genetic code to create his Daleks. Dalek Caan is going mad, and says such things as: “He is coming, the three-fold-man. He dances in the lonely places,” and “Everlasting death for the most faithful companion.”
There is probably a clue in there somewhere.
(Harriet Jones, Ianto Jones, Martha Jones, John Smith, Sarah Jane Smith, Mr Smith? What’s up with that?)
Wasn’t “Mr Copper” the tour guide from “The Voyage of the Damned”? The chap The Doctor gave the unlimited credit card to?