I don’t mind people saying they don’t like an episode. It’s the point of the thread. I thought Into the Dalek was mainly a bore.
FWIW, I wasn’t terribly pleased w/ the stories over the Matt Smith era, and generally laid the problem at the feet of Moffat–after all, look at what he did to his creations, like the Angels! But I’m enjoying the heck out of this season so far–Doctor and individual episodes. I’m reserving judgment on the overal arc, but I’m pleased that it’s been left out of a few episodes (and just barely in Sherwood).
OTOH, the new season came up on the open thread at wrestling site I visit, and people were Very Much Not Happy About This New Season. Not sure what the general opinion on the interwebs is so far…
Which is ironic, because freeing the Teller’s mate is the only plan with guilt that would probably make the Teller stop scanning and not kill them. Why would he* kill them if he sees they have a plan to free him and his mate?
*(Note: I have written here that the Teller on the outside was male and the one captive in the vault was female, but it could just as easily be the other way around, and could also be that male and female are inadequate/inappropriate descriptors to use for that species.)
That’s just it. The Doctor will have no problem forcing someone to express regret - he can always add it to his to-do list right after the heist is over. In fact, I doubt they would do this, but I would really like to see one of those little webisodes (like the Pond Life ones) where he comes charging into Karabraxos’ late life hospice room, all fired up to show her what she’s done, Ghost-of-Christmas-Past style.
To be fair, the TARDIS readily admits it takes the Doctor where he needs to go - it’s just that where he needs to go is rarely where he wants to go.
Anyone notice James Marsters’s picture amongst the pics when the cyber guy was calling up all the terrible criminals to attract the Teller? I caught that last week when I happened to pause the preview in just the right place.
Just an interesting Torchwood call back or something more? Probably the former, but how cool would it be if he did show up on DW?
That wasn’t in fear of the Teller’s retribution, but because the Teller was linked to Madame Karabraxos she would have found out and killed them.
Ah - I forgot about the link to Karabraxos - good catch, GuanoLad
I waited a few days after watching this before commenting. I’ve decided that I pretty much liked the episode. A few minor nits, but nothing that made me unhappy with it. I chuckled at the bowtie and scarf references.
That’s it…just didn’t want to only post on the negative side. 
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{snip} …I don’t have an Internet’s worth of thread-shitters telling me how stupid this episode is week after week, and that Stephen Moffat is The Worst Thing To Ever Happen To Television. I save that particualr fun for Monday mornings.
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Ah, my fellow Whovian, you (and any thread-shitters reading this) may find this of interest: Steven Moffat | Tardis | Fandom.
I found the section “Opinions of the Original Series” to be quite :D-inducing. As with anything on the intrawebz, YMMV.
PS: It’s “Eccleston”, not “Eggleston”; (nor, “Ecclestone”, while I’m nit-picking). 
But that’s explained in the episode. The TARDIS was reading Clara’s mind, and Clara was thinking of Danny Pink.
But I always thought the “takes you where you need to go” thing was kinda weird. It’s a Time Machine. Why does this Doctor at this time need to go to that time and place? Why not some other Doctor from some other time? Why now?
It’s possible fanboy fatigue is an element, but it’s not that for me. I really didn’t know who he was until after he had started helming Doctor Who, and realized he had written a couple of the good episodes leading in. My opinion is based purely upon his run as helm and writer. I’m just tired of the big set ups he does that don’t pan out. They end up falling flat with holes.
And it’s not just Doctor Who. I feel the same way about Sherlock. Season 2 of Sherlock left us with a huge, impossible cliffhanger with Sherlock jumping off a building to fake his own death. Season 3 started with Sherlock returning, and giving us several silly explanations before finally giving us the supposed real explanation. But the real explanation was too complex (the airbag where everybody in the neighborhood but Watson knew what was going on) and didn’t account for the original reason Sherlock had to be seen jumping off the building - Moriarty and his men were watching. In particular, Sherlock couldn’t have known Moriarty was going to blow his own brains out, so he had to expect that Moriarty would be there on the building to watch him jump. He might have been able to stage manage a way to land in a garbage truck or something without Moriarty spotting, but no way Moriarty would miss a team of people carrying a giant airbag around the side of a building to keep it out of Watson’s view.
That’s how I feel about lots of Moffat plots - great set ups, endings that suck.
You misunderstand. I’m not saying anything to do with the Doctor, I’m saying as a storytelling device it is forced and nonsensical.
That’s not any more interesting than the Weevil (another formerly Torchwood-only enemy) or the two formerly SJA-only enemies, and significantly less interesting than the comic enemy in the list.
I follow you - I just want to see them dissect the trope by having the Doctor create the remorse from which the rest of the plot flows.
I may be misremembering, but I thought even the “real” explanation turned out to be bullshit.
That’s the way I remembered it, too: it was a complete copout.
I agree with all that Irishman said about the problems with the ‘Moriarty and/or his gang is watching’ situation. Moffat set up a ‘locked room’ mystery and then just hand-waved the solution (the fact that Holmes survived).
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I may be misremembering, but I thought even the “real” explanation turned out to be bullshit.
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Agreed. And, after loads of rewatching S02E03 and S03, and reading pages of comments on multiple boards, my opinion is that Moffat/Gatiss are withholding the real explanation from viewers. They’ll reveal/explain it when they wrap up the Sherlock series. Or when they need a ratings boost.
Not to hijack this thread, but they played that off in an ambiguous way. Sherlock told his “real” explanation to the conspiracy theorist (wasn’t that the CSI guy who was the first to believe Moriarty’s lies about Sherlock?) to publish. The conspiracy theorist then started scrutinizing and tearing it to shreds, and Sherlock walked out on him. One interpretation is that Sherlock was lying to him. Another interpretation is that Moffat was poking a stick in all the internet second-guessers who would continue to debate and analyze the explanation. Basically, “that’s the real answer, everything else is just contrarians who don’t like the answer”.
I guess you can pick which version you think is true.
I’d love to go on about Sherlock, but that can be found elsewhere.
The logic of this episode is crap, but I at least enjoyed it.
Well, yeah, it is more interesting, because it’s James “motherfucking Spike” Marsters. 
Found a great pick-up line. Well, I guess it could be used for that, but I needed a lot of help today and when I walked into her office and saw her TARDIS scarf I asked, “So, how do you like Capaldi?” She was putty in my hands after that. 
When The Doctor offered himself to the creature at the end, I thought he was trying to kill it with an enormous overload of guilt (given that The Doctor has had plenty of time to build up some guilt reserves over the course of his existence).