Eh. Just watched this episode, and it was everything I’ve come to expect from a Who ep written by Moffat.
Emotional impact of episode… check. 
Consistency tossed out the window… check. :smack:
Use of “timey-whimey”… check. :rolleyes:
River being superfluous to plot… check. 
I liked the Ponds as companions, but I am SO ready for the next one already.
You may be right. Then again…
Oh yes, that was the other thing. Everyone kept taking their eyes off the Angels all the time, like it was an inconsequential thing.
Oh, and yeah, the Doctor can’t go back and pick up Amy and Rory because the timeline is now fixed, but was he able to go back to when Amy was a little girl, and tell her that she would grow up to save a space whale, and marry a man who would protect her for 2000 years, meet Van Gogh, etc, etc…
I had hoped for a scene that showed Amy and Rory in the past finding the little girl version of River (in the 1960s) and helping her.
Over the last few weeks I feel it is getting dull… Look at Lady Liberty - you could hear her foot steps - and no-one in all NY could see her - give me a break. Also a poor ending for a companion - almost like they decided to quit and the ending was added on to explain why they vanished. too much timey-whimey - over use of the sonic screwdriver - to many uses of the ‘Doctor Who’ gag. Bring back the old style doctors - NuWho is getting over rated.
He never actually did that though, did he? I took that to be Amy’s fanciful little closing farewell rather than a literal description of events.
it finished with young Amy sitting in the garden and the sound of the TARDIS in the background - implying he did.
I would like to see a 3 doctors story with the NuWho Doctors - see how it compares with the old Doctors cross over - can’t happen as there are no Time Lord council to make it happen though…
I thought it was good, even very good. The problem with NuWho is that with the occasional great episode like the original weeping angels or the Gaiman episode, it’s easy to get expectations really high for something that is, in the end, a monster-of-the-week show with a an occasional longer plot arc and thin slather of emotional development on top. It’s not a lifework movie that has been rewritten a hundred times to iron out inconsistencies and keep a clear focus on the emotional journey; it’s a series that occasionally gets to add greater things.
But keeping that in mind, this was a very good episode: despite my fears, it used the weeping angels well (better than the last time!); it let Amy and Rory go together, and finally resolved the tension of Amy being pulled to both the Doctor and Rory; it involved River in a nice way; and gave us a little tiny taste of historic New York.
And, then again, Amy wasn’t a bad companion, but frankly I’m kind of happy to see the end of Amy ACTING! TEARFULLY! about Rory dying-something (how many times now?), when there was so little actual chemistry between them. Face it, if you saw the three of them without any backstory, you’d assume Amy and the Doctor were sleeping together, and Rory was her little brother or something, right?
Been watching Dr Who for 40 years on and off - I dont mind weak stories - but over the top stupid stuff really get to me - Slyvester McCoy and the Bertie Bassett monster - ‘The Happiness Patrol’ was cringworthy - I like the Angels but the Statue of Liberty as an Angel & moving unseen - how can she not be seen long enough to walk into NY (you heard the footsteps) - ‘look the SoL is standing on the waterfront’ - people will notice.
Yeah, but Rory taking the piss out of that was quite funny 
“You think you’ll just come back to life?”
“When don’t I?!”
There is some interesting speculation in the Guardian review about River’s mixed up timeline too.
I have a concept for this, but as I abhor fanfic I refuse to write it. Also, I think it should include a Paul McGann cameo.
FanFic? don’t understand the ref to fanfic - talking about the earty Dr Who - 5 doctors and the even earlier 3 Doctors. Never really liked Paul McGann - but a the 4 Doctors could work as well.
In the 3 Doctors (from memory so please forgive if I get it wrong) William Hartnell was ill and he did a cameo from a ‘time bubble’ - giving advice remotly as Trouton and Pertwee ran around.
In the 5 Doctors (same again from memory) - Tom Baker was stuck in a loop so he never appeared (except from a clip from an episode that was never televised (due to a TV strike) and William Hartnell’s Doctor was played by Richard Hurndall (due to Hartnell’s passing, but he played it very well IMHO)
Well, if Gyrate writes his own idea, (as opposed to somebody authorized by the BBC,) then it’s fanfic by definition. Since he abhors fanfic, then he keeps it as a concept. That seems straightforward to me.
I may well have missed this, having watched the episode at the arse end of a rather vigorous weekend, but who is going to tell Brian that he can no longer see his son?
Maybe a misunderstanding on my part - I red Gyrate’s post as ‘the 3 Doctors’ as fanfic rather than a ref to the original Doctor Who story. Ooooppps
I was thinking the same.. :smack:
One aspect I “liked”. Well, I didn’t like it because it brought a tear to my eye and reminded of how life can kinda suck. But this had some real life emotional punch to it.
One moment everything is fine. Next moment Rory is gone and thats that (its a problem that cannot be fixed). Docter is rather upset and Amy is freaked out. A few moments later here goes Amy (though by choice). This freaks the doctor out.
No long good byes. No we saw it coming. No they died being a hero. No it was for the best or stuff like that. The fates/universe/chance/bad things just fucked with your life and somebody dear to you is gone in a moment never to be seen or heard from again. Though they did cheat a little bit on that last one.
While more unsettling obviously, I think it would have had a much greater emotional impact if we didn’t get the “letter from the past”. Just they are both gone and here are two names on the tombstone.
Gone. They are just gone.
It was a good end for the Ponds, I think, a long and happy life together. (Although Amy will be very noticeably taller than pretty much every other woman in 1938, and gulp surely Rory won’t have to go to war against the rather banal evil in WWII?) They’ll be missed, the pair of them were really excellent companions. I hope the new lass fits in well, and I’m sure she will, but Matt, Karen and Arthur really seemed like a tight unit.
What was the purpose of the otherwise blank Rolls Royce data plate…was it just a convenient shiny surface?