There may be some months that is cold but I checked the weather forecast that is 1:30 AM most people sleeping now and it was 66s south of Florida , 57s north of Florida , 65s in Phoenix , 50s in Vagas , and 60s in LA ad this is 130 AM .
In New York it is 38s.
How cold it is in NY doesn’t really impact whether or not people turn on their heat in Florida. I never said Florida is colder than NY (having lived over two decades in upstate NY, I’m quite sure that it’s not), I just said that people turn on their heat there. That is all.
Well Normaly if it is 60s and up you can wear t-shirt and shorts and if it is below 55s you going turn the heat on in the house and if it is around 42s you going to have the heat turn up really high in the house and on all of the day that is cold.
So 50s in Vagas now you may want to wear pants than shorts and sweatshirt :o I posted 57s north of Florida that not cold but not hot or close to warm .
And yes doing the day it is going to be much hoter than the night.
This is all nice and well, but it changes nothing. People use heat in Florida, end of story. I’m sorry if that bothers you.
Look may be 2 or 3 months in year it may get down to 30s or 40s but I check forestcast it is hot in those cities now and very cold in north .
Any thing 60s and up is hot.
That’s a fascinating map. Look at the Western Isles, the Rhins, etc. That kind of shows the warming influence of the sea. Also, Cairngorm shows the difference that hight makes!
Still doesn’t change the fact that they do, in fact, use heat in Florida plenty. Nobody is arguing whether it’s colder in Canada than in Florida. Just the “you don’t even turn heat on in your house in those states” part of your original statement.
People from very cold climates tend to underestimate the impact of mild cold on areas that are not accustomed to it. What I can say is that I lived in a very mild part of Southwest China. Winters were cold and rainy, but usually in the 40s and 50s. My coworkers was from Minnesota, and she said her winters in China was the coldest time in her life. I’m from Sacramento, CA, but I live in DC now and it has been an adjustment.
Equipment is one issue. Houses in warm climates are often poorly insulated, not winterized, and generally just not designed to hold heat. When you build a house in Southern California, you probably aren’t thinking about how you are going to heat those cathedral ceilings or installing double paned windows in the sunroom. As a result, even with the heat going, houses can get quite chilly and well below comfortable temperature. Indeed, it’s not unusual for a poorly insulated house to be colder than the outside air. And while 40 degrees may not be that crazy cold when you are out and about, it can be unbearably cold when you are sitting around watching TV- and you may not have slippers and throw blankets to keep warm. Additionally, warm climate dwellers often don’t budget for increased heating costs during the winter, so they keep the thermostat low trying to save energy, rather than thinking of heat as one of the normal costs of living.
Likewise, people in mild climates tend not to invest in winter clothing. It took me months after moving from California to DC to realize that a hat and gloves were not whimsical fashion accessories, but rather essential items that I needed to have on me if I wanted to be comfortable. Warm climate people don’t have down jackets, heavy wool coats, or even fleeces, and even if we had layering items we wouldn’t really know how to use them, and we would feel awkward and uncomfortable wearing them. Cold-weather dwellers don’t really notice the little things they do that keep them warm- things like buying thicker socks, or wearing more closed toed shoes. Even when we dress in warm clothes, we aren’t doing it right by really leveraging our materials and keeping our core warm. That Target coat may look warm because it is builky, but it’s probably not as warm as a good fleece.
FInally, life is just different. Warm weather bus stops are not shielded from the wind. Our restaurants and venues don’t have coat checks. Our high schools don’t have halls, and students change classes in the open. We have more open parking lots, and they may be further away from the destinations. Public spaces- things like high school cafeterias, churches, and office hallways- may not be heated.
In short, in very cold climates you spend a little time being very cold, but basically all indoor spaces are set up to be warm. In mild climates, you end up being a little cold all of the time, and that becomes very uncomfortable and unpleasant.
I was just a visitor, but back in college I skiied on Mt. Ruapehu at the Whakapapa resort on the North Island of New Zealand in August, and it had snow. The snow wasn’t great, and the resort was closed the previous year, but that’s more due to it being on an active volcano than the latitude. I have a picture that we took somewhere around New Zealand’s North Island as well (unfortunately I can’t remember where) in which it’s snowing great big flakes just like those in Minnesota. I do recall that they didn’t stick long. Didn’t know that it was a pretty rare occurrence, so I guess I really saw something, hey?
Just for fun I look up some numbers today of some cities in the US and this at 1:20 PM.
44/ 7 New York
46 /8 Detroit
41/ 5 Chicago
39/ 4 Boston
57 / 14 Vagas
65 / 18 LA
67/ 19 phoenix
80/ 27 Miami
79/ 26 West Palm Beach
69/21 Tampa
55/ 13 Jacksonville
58/ 14 Dallas
Looking at that the only cities you can go out with t-shirt and shorts are Tampa ,West Palm Beach ,Miami ,phoenix and LA. Cities where you need pants and sweatshirt are Dallas ,Jacksonville and Vagas.Where cities you need to dress really warm are New York ,Detroit ,Chicago and Boston.
Base on the above for toady.
This now 1:20 of 15 Nov.
Well 2 or 3 months of heat is lot better than 8 months of heat.
That is mainly because of two things. One, desert areas have a relatively cloud free sky so during the day the sun can heat up the place and during the night there is nothing preventing the day’s heat from radiating back out into space. Two, unlike a large body of water like the sea, the land doesn’t retain heat very well. This means the ground warms up very quickly during the day and sheds its heat at night. The sea doesn’t change temperature much throughout the year and hardly at all from day to night, this serves to moderate the temperature of coastal areas, keeping the days cool and the nights warm.
For the nth time, nobody is arguing with you about that.
And it’s Las Vegas, not Las Vagas. Or Vegas for short, not Vagas.
Indeed. We had a friend from Canada visiting several years ago. At the time, she was living in Thunder Bay but had recently moved from a much colder settlement, the name of which escapes me now but where the winters used to be regularly -40.
She arrived here in April and enjoyed our moderate climate, travelled around for a while finishing up in far north Queensland. By the time she got back to Sydney in July she was complaining about how cold it was. Even in quite a short time down here, she’d become accustomed to our more moderate weather and found our Sydney winter really cold.
You’re right about not insulating our houses (and ourselves) properly as well. Because our winters are so short and relatively mild, I don’t own a coat nor gloves and just grizzle a bit for a few weeks about how perishing it is. It’s not worth forking out money for a item of clothing which will be mothballed for 10 months of the year.
Humidity is perhaps a factor. When I’ve been in Sydney, even mild temperatures (low 20s) can be unpleasantly hot, so I imagine it works the other way, Canberra air feels thin and chilly to the unaccustomed.
“Suburban” Los Angeles covers a vast territory in terms of climate. Sunset magazine even makes a distinction between the upslope of a mountain range and the downslope, and the upslope can be Hollywood, but the downslope is the San Fernando Valley. Some plants thrive in one, but die in the other.
Santa Monica never freezes, Hollywood rarely freezes, but the San Fernando and San Gabriel Valleys sometimes do in the winter. Yet they’re all in Los Angeles, and they’re all suburban.
This is true. All my winter clothing is stuff I owned in New Zealand and brought over with me; I don’t wear it enough here for it to wear out.
The immediate coast and islands of Southeast Alaska. An endless succession of storms pump in maritime air with temperatures in the 40s all winte, with heavy rain and high winds almost every day. When enough cold air filters through the British Columbia mountains to turn the rain to snow on occasion, the snow gets washed away by more rain within a day.
One of the dreariest climates in the world.
I recall it snowed in San Carlos de Bariloche when I was a kid. We made a snowman. Of course, it’s in the mountains, but not that high up.
I seem to recall there was a light dusting of wet snow in Inverness at the south tip of NZ when we were there a few years ago. there are ski resorts around Queenstown, but I don’t know if the snow reaches to the town.
One of the more hilarious apects of weather in Hollywood is how they depict cold weather, when the screenwriters and director seem to live in perpetual sunshine and heat.
I particularly remember the scene in the original Superman, where Christopher Reeves is walking down the Alska Highway in a windbreaker in a snowstorm after losing his super powers. Sorry, you’re not going to walk back from the Arctic Ocean in a day, or a month, and you won’t get more than 2 miles in a blizzard at -40 before you freeze to death.