No, not starve, just living on rice and beans, and old cans of beets from the food pantry.
In fact, the rice and beans should come from the food pantry too. More tax money for drone strikes and sports stadiums so Mike Pence will have more places to march huffily out of. Now that’s tax money well spent.
What is basic income but minimum wage? What ever would be decided as basic income would become minimum wage.
Believe what you wish. However, it’s the counterproductive policies you support that have led to the rust belt here and an ascendant China.
That’s a ridiculous strawman. I don’t know a single liberal who wants to let everyone in.
Well returned. Thank you.
Aren’t there folks on this very board who take exactly that position?
Regardless, the 2016 Democratic Party Platform sure seems, on my read of it, to say that folks who got here illegally should get to stay. Which is, again, presumably why they put an illegal right up there on stage – you know, for emphasis.
Aren’t there folks on this very board who take exactly the same position that octopus claims is a strawman?
Perhaps. Iirc, there are people in these parts that actually advocate such a thing but let’s pretend that either they don’t exist or are not liberal. With what factors would you use to exclude people from immigration?
Perhaps. Iirc, there are people in these parts that actually advocate such a thing but let’s pretend that either they don’t exist or are not conservative.
You just going to post mockingly and tediously? Have fun. :rolleyes:
You just keep pointing fingers, and I’ll just keep pointing out which direction the other fingers are pointing to every time you do so.
It’s an explanation of sorts. I suppose.
There’s a bit that reads: “More than 11 million people are living in the shadows, without proper documentation.” Just past that is this: “Those immigrants already living in the United States, who are assets to their communities and contribute so much to our country, should be incorporated completely into our society through legal processes” and that we of course “will end raids and roundups of children and families” and that we “will not stand for the divisive and derogatory language of Donald Trump. His offensive comments about immigrants and other communities have no place in our society.” So there’s no place in our society for his comments about illegals, but there’s a place in our society for those illegals?
Those that are already here and who contribute so much to our country should be brought in fully through legal processes? Sounds good to me.
Not tolerating the divisive and derogatory language of Donald Trump? Sounds good to me.
They won’t be illegal anymore. Says so right in the quote, “through legal processes.”
BTW, Trump is, in fact, offensive, divisive and derogatory. Not germane to this discussion, but I think we have to point it out every chance we get.
So amnesty for whoever can sneak across the border? How is that not de facto open borders?
I’ll respond when you quote what was actually said, without reinterpreting into your own original statement. I know you have a prepared response for this statement of yours-good luck getting anyone to repeat it back to you.
I thought we were discussing what they favored, not whether it sounds good.
Because we have borders, and we have people at the borders stopping other people from crossing. That’s not open boarders. Dealing with the people already here may be a good idea, or it may not be, but it’s not “open boarders.”
My personal feeling is that we shouldn’t take everyone who comes here, we should only take those who want to be here.
Ask, “Why do you want to move to the US?”
And if their answer is, “To make a better life for myself and my family.” Well, isn’t that exactly who we want? Isn’t that why all our ancestors came?