Does God Hate Marijuana?

I grew up in a place infested with Baptists and Catholics, and they never quite quit gritchin’ at each other about the booze.

I finished growin’ up years ago, and have since grown OUT, and I continue to hear the godly gritchin’ about the booze. To this day, no one has ever given me a decent answer about how God feels about alcoholic beverages, aside from “my team is right, everyone else’s is wrong, and you are possibly goin’ to hell.”

So naturally now, I seek to expand the debate.

Recently, when we stopped off in Manitou Springs, Colorado, at a record store, my dear one and I were smacked upside the chops with the rich, earthy smell of marijuana.

There was nothing wrong with this. The record store was next door to a perfectly legal and licensed dispensary, and apparently, they were doing some pretty good business; it was the Saturday after Halloween, after all. Inside the record store, it didn’t smell like anything, but when we came back outdoors, we were again smacked with the odor of ganja in large quantities.

I remember living in Texas in the seventies, the eighties, the nineties, the oughts… and while you will find head shops in Texas if you look for them, they’re FURTIVE little joints, if you’ll pardon the pun. They know damn good and well what you’re buying that glass pipe for, the one that looks like it was made by a glassblower with hiccups, and you’re NOT doing it for Legitimate Legal Smoking Purposes. They’re NAUGHTY little places, with a feel and atmosphere like a defiant porn shop, and a grim determination to be LEGAL, goddammit, with bright fluorescent light and stern signs declaring their legality and defiance against lawbreaking purposes, even if the place reeks of patchouli incense and the clerk has dreadlocks down to his belt line.

In Colorado, though, now, they’re undergoing a bit of a renaissance. They’re not furtive any more. They’re BLATANT. “Yes, marijuana is legal, and while we are not currently licensed to sell you any, we’re working on it. The dispensary next door, however, has a variety of cannabis products for legal sale, with proper ID. In the meantime, would you like some glass pipes, flavoring agents, black light posters, Hostess Fruit Pies, or other perfectly legal merchandise to enhance your marijuana intoxication state, about which we are no longer required to lie and be hypocrites?”

It’s bizarre. Furthermore, it’s harder to get pipe tobacco, now. I like to smoke a pipe of flavored tobacco on occasion, and now the head shops don’t need to carry any to sustain the illusion that you’re, (ha-ha-chuckle-snort) smoking the stuff in a bong. I have to go looking for actual tobacco shops, and most of them are going full 420 now; it’s more profitable. Classy ol’ tobacco shops are getting hard to find!

And so I sit and observe and see what happens. Two communities that I know of are fighting political battles to see whether dope retailers will or won’t be allowed to do business in the community in question; it’s like having a dry county, but with dope instead of booze. Seen it before. Meanwhile, they continue to ponder new ways to market the stuff and the experience.

…but it got me to thinking: what about the religious contingent?

I spent a childhood in Texas being told conflicting stuff about whether or not God would punish me for drinkin’ booze. The Catholics were okay with wine, although they disapproved of excess. The Southern Baptists, on the other hand, are quite sure that a can of beer actually equals a sin against God all by itself. And I wrote a whole 'nother note around here somewhere about the particularly insistent fellow I knew that was quite sure that when the Bible mentioned “wine,” it actually meant “grape juice.”

Thing is, alcohol is legal, most places in the US. Sure, there are dry counties and such, but there aren’t many spots where, if you want a bottle of wine, you have to drive more than twenty miles to buy one, legally, during regular weekday business hours.

Marijuana, however, is *not *mentioned in the Bible, even in passing. Not one word about it. Does this mean that God doesn’t care one way or another if you get high? Again, I spent most of my life in Texas, where dope is illegal and will remain so for the foreseeable future. There didn’t NEED to be any religious discussion on Jesus and His position on the high green. But now I’m curious. Are Coloradoans going to hell for occasional indulgence in the smoking salad? And if so, upon what justification? When Jesus said “sin,” did he mean “marijuana?”

Anyone out there up to date on this information? Please, kindly share. I’m genuinely curious.

God created it. Really it is powers of this world (government authority, and ‘spiritual forces of wickedness’ that rule this world (with our sovereignty)) that cause such bans and punishment.

It obviously had a beneficial medical and social function and something that God desires us to enjoy.

You never hear these arguments offered in defence of smoking.

God gave me a dick, too, but the Wild Eyed Religious have spent years trying to convince me that He doesn’t want me to use it.

Did he not also make a lot of plants that will kill you if you eat them?

If it feels good it’s probably bad.

There are many things omitted from the bible. That’s what happens if you get high while dictating stone tablets.

Personally, I think we would all be better off if God would mellow out a bit, especially in the Old Testament, where he seems to be on a murderous rampage. Chill out, Dude.

I take my inspiration not from the Toad of Hosts, but Robert Louis Stevenson, who once said,“The world is so full of a number of things,
I’m sure we should be as happy as kings.”

Genesis 1:29-30

But you see, God did all that while man was still int he garden. When Adam and Eve got evicted, God changed all the rules.

Why did you say smoking instead of tobacco?

Tobacco is a sacred plant gifted by the Great Spirit to many Native American cultures and has been used in such applications. “Smoking”, the term you use, is more like the commercial (worldly) version of this, and again goes into the ‘powers of this world’s influence’, including outright proven in court lies about it’s health and addictive properties by the industry.

Big difference.

But God made the tree of knowledge and he specifically DIDN’T want us to eat the fruit. How does that square with Genesis 1:29-30?

He also made a lot of cliffs that if you jump off of it will kill you.

Yeah I fell for that one too :smack:

The fruit of the tree of knowledge doesn’t have seeds.

Says who?

Logic.

  1. God is perfect.
  2. God said we can eat any plant bearing seeds.
  3. God said we can’t eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge.

Therefore, for all statements to be true, the only conclusion remaining is that the tree of knowledge has no seeds. Why would it?

The difference is lawyerly, particularly to those delightfully religious.
If the ‘Industry’ is responsible for the incredible amounts of pleasure their products have given me, by my own choice — not through any deceit of their’s —, I am very, very grateful.
A pack of cigarettes on a rainy day in an old barn is heaven itself.

There you are. Just because a thing is part of creation does not mean it is good for humans to use. Marijuana is, but not because God made it.

“They will be yours for food.” Smoking is not eating. And eating marijuana, if it has not been baked at a high temperature as in brownies, will not get you stoned (the plant’s cell walls are so tough that, if not broken down by heat, they will pass through your system undigested, with all the THC inside).

. . . a fire hazard.