The tooth fairy gives QUARTERS??! Ive been handing out dollar bills!! DANG!
I just wonder how that frikken bunny lays multi-colored eggs.
Well, or he’s just making a reducto ad absurdum (argument from absurdity). It’s where you argue for something by assuming that the reverse of what you’re arguing for is true, then showing that, if it were true, it would lead to a logical contradiction or falsehood.
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Well, it wasn’t so much that it sounded hostile to atheism to me, because I know you’re not hostile to atheists. (Like I said, I doubted that the ideas I voiced were particularly new to you.) It’s just that the phrasing sounded odd, and I wondered why atheists were singled out. If the idea of hostility to atheism had occurred to me, it probably would have been in the context of, “Poly should clarify this lest some nitwit see an affirmation of their beliefs in it.”
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Yes, I understand that. That’s why I asked for the details of what you believe. I’d like to hear you explain your own beliefs, rather than someone else’s.
I was particularly interested in your interpretation of the verse from Hebrews, since you had indicated some months before, if I read you correctly, that true Christians who become apostates cannot be forgiven. I was hoping you might explain further.
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And he makes a damn fine blackcurrant drink, too!
Seriously, though, do you believe that the enlightenment will take place at the Second Coming. (arg- the question mark doesn’t work on this computer…) And what happens after death, while God waits for someone to come to him. And, for that matter, who in this thread has seen The Rapture.
The way I heard the story told is this;
- Breaking part of the law is the same as breaking the whole of the law.
- All are sinners and therefore not deserving and justice would be not to reward any of us.
- God in His, infinite mercy, decided to give us grace. We get salvation in spite of the fact that we don’t deserve it.
- All that is asked of us to is to receive that grace and mercy.
That’s how I heard it told.
On a bumper sticker i saw today Militant Agnostic -I dont know what happens after you die and neither do you.
I believe the catechism calls it something like “seeking enlightenment.”
The only way you automatically go to hell, according to the RC church, is if you know God but turn away from him. I don’t really understand the mechanism behind that!
Julie
—Can someone explain to me the justice in this, as it doesn’t seem to be morally compatible with the teachings of the Bible.—
What are you arguing is injust, the first man being saved, or the second not being saved?
I’ve heard people complain that the idea of hell is morally reprehensible, and I agree. But then these same people go an scoff at the idea that Osama Bin Laden or Hitler can avoid hell by reforming (or avoid hell at all, regardless of how or even if there is a how). I can’t for the life of me figure out how someone can reconcile these two views.
In my view, morality is about advocating what is right and wrong, and I fully agree with the view that it comes out of love, out of a value for all feeling beings. To me, there is no way to turn such a morality into an isolated “well, an immoral man deserves such and such after the fact, done to his person.” Punishment is about pragmatism, preventing further wrong in a world frought with uncertainty, passions, community outrage, and limited solutions.